MilesFox

I had installed a new clutch set in jims 4wd spfi wagon. he had it parked at a barn since winter set in. Well, we came down to fix the TPS, but the wagon was stuck. We attempted to get the car out, which we did with some clever driving technique, third attempt. Jim had attempted to get it unstuck before we showed. the clutch had only less than 10 miles, there was an odor of burnt clutch, and dust present(from the first attempts. We managed to get it going, but the clutch cable seemed loose, so we tightened it. but the clutch seemed to be still engaged, with it near impossible to get in 1st or reverse without first shutting the motor off. we made it to a gas station, but when we left, no clutch at all. we pressed the clutch pedal, you can hear it against the throwout bearing, but no go. so we got it back, and i pulled the motor away to inspect. I had speculated that the clutch smoked enough to "fluff up" causing clutch drag. p separated the bell housing and a bunch of dust and the disc metal parts just fell out. so i pulled out the "hub" of the clutch, the disc part had desintegrated, all the circumfrence was gone. i proceeded to clean all the dust up, and noticed a considerable amount in the flywheel. a closer look, and i noticed the outer circumfrence of the clutch disc was stuck in the flywheel! what happened, from the way it looked, is that when the clutch was smoked from the first attempt, the pressure plate side fluffed away, making so much dist that it wedged the flwheel side to the flywheel. then on the way to the gas station, the torque of the motor ripped away the outer circumfrence from the clutch, therefore ripping it apart my point: clutch dust, seized disc, clutch drop, ripped apart. interesting clutch failure

i wished i could have lent a hand during the troubleshoot, but i was busy with the clutch on the other wagon. but we plugged in a different motor, and replaced the switch to no avail. jim has the haynes book, and i am handy with the electrical troubleshoot, so i will have to take a look next time i come down. i bet we can fixit by a cleverly places jumper wire, once i peep the schematics

if we take the wagon, i will stow the gas on top. i dont want to smell it all day, the last time reduced my tolerance to gasoline

what year is your car and is it spfi, turbo, carb?

not a rocester, but something other than a weber, i had the idea of using a hollet 2bbl i had, and to grind out a 1/2 thick chunk of aluminum to match the carb, and have it tig welded to a hitachi manifold. i had all the stuff, its still around somewhere....

sounds like used car dealer tricks, not actual repairs

wow, thanx for the luck wishes. yes, the guy in whitefish with the camo ea82 wagon, i got his pics on my server... i will be running on 5 lugs, i will have 3 choices for tires, the xt6 14's, impreza 13's, or leganus 15's i will bring one can of gas, (dont want to smell it all the way there ), i will bring all of my spare timing belts, too. i know exactly which tools to bring, for any repair, ask anyone who was at wcss5!!! that and i got a lot of supplies and spare parts still in the trashwagon5. first things first, i am paying back Bradd for the bus ticket this weekend. then i can start saving as far as "is it worth it over potential jail" i didnt build a car to aboandon it agross the country. the trip is only half complete. Trashwagon will pick up from where it left off, and return on its intended route back home. Furthermore, Zanny Dook will be present, as he was ONE of the 2 that went with me the last time. jail dont scare me, but it gets old having to start over again each time. but i will be safe and dare not step over the idaho line, since the warrant wont expedite or arrest out of state. (hence my 2 pullovers, 2 tickets, and numerous court dates here since) probation remembers the last road trip. i will tell the PO that im getting my car, dont know if i cant leave state. but thats that if i were to be stopped, pulled over in idaho, off to jail. nothing i could do but ride out 375 bucks in court costs worth of jail time, back to where i was. but i will hand over the car and tell my dudes to hit the road, because if my car gets home, i could much care less about being in jail. thats how i would feel anyway. so that doesnt scare me. losing car forever scares me all in all, this trip will be final redemption for everything since wcss5. Redeeming myself for my car, my friends, my job and everyone at work, and all those who helped us out last time. as far as the least colorful car, its gonna be trashwagon6 (blue with orange stripe, hood scoop (NO SHEET METAL OR LIGHTS) if its nut up to the task, it will be an 87 rx wit a blue fender, and an anus lift. as far as tires, i got them out my anus, i will bring 2 tires, one in the hood, one on top. trashwagon 5 has its spare too, thanks to flowmaster87, edrach, and ezap. it also has 2 good axles and a good spare, thanx ed. it also has a good gas tank, vs a ruptured rigged up one the way out thx ratty2subaru. and a replacement fender from a catastrophic blowout thx bratsrus(jerry). straight bumper and passenger doors thx LUMPYCAM. and thx BRADD for the bus home, the security of my car, and the patience with the boundary county judicial system.

cool. glad u like. if you got any good parts numbers napa specific, i can put them on the page, if you would like me to do that

cool. you are definately good to go until you find a replacement axle. happy donuting!!!

rguyver is your man, he did it, spfi on a ea81 in a hatch and turbo'd. dont forget the ea82 suspension in front, like i did on my wagon i myself have mocked up a turbo and spfi intak/dist to an ea81, but thats all i got to. the difficult part would be the routing for the turbo plenum and intake, something about saab parts there. you can find rguyver in msn groups, occasionally he will appear on the usmb, but not often try searching for the old usmb board, something may be posted there

the clips under the dash are for TURBO models. skip corrected me on this a while back(i assumed 88+ was under the hood, jims spfi wagon, and 87- were dash, my 87 turbo wagon) , now i pass it along turbo under dash spfi under hood xt(and 6) in the trunk under the rear deck (thx qman)

sorry corky, i should have been more specific, i was responding about the bearings in the strut cap, not the knuckle. its blatantly obvious there is a difference in ea and xt6 parts. cause i have them all in a pile on the floor waiting to go in my car!! i would spend 100 bucks on xt6 parts, and 200 bucks on a legacy(for the struts, axle) for parts that wont fit!!!! for a little bit i am going to be sportin a mix and match, 5 lug rear(to replace my bent trailing arm), and 4lug front, until i can make room to park the leganus and the trashwagon side by side for the front swap, and tranny swap, the motor will get cleaned up and the leak fixed, better carb, till i get a turbo motor(87 gl-10 turbo with carbbed spfi motor) hopefully i can figure up something new that hasnt been tried yet, the 23 spline idea would let you do this to non turbo 5spds and dual ranges, ultimately for ea81 vehicles such as the TrashWagon 5 (full ea82 motor/driveline and suspension 2wd to 4wd conversion)

i have noticed that subarus tend to stall up the torque converters before actually engaging. maybe the valve body is acting slow, until it finally builds enough pressure. these are just ideas, i dont have much experience with autos other than changing them out, turning them into 5spds!

Brian i am going to challenge that by making a point. ok, if we had a turbo forum, and you say might as well have one for ea81 and ea82. But a lot of your ea81 is hitachi carbbed, as well as 3 years of ea82. the only exception would be SPFI. si carb and FI, no need to distinguish between, either carb or spfi, tbelts or pushrods. and parts will swap between, such as hitachis, or even spfi on ea81. But the turbo forum, however, would be a different beast, like dual ports, certain sensors and symptoms, specific to turbo models only. may as well have ea81t there too, being similar with its mpfi layout. maybe call it "Turbo Models Forum", if there were so, i dont think there would be confusion about "TURBO" vs ea82t for newcomers and seeing that a lot of posts are turbo specific, i dont think its entirely a bad idea. one more forum shouldnt hurt, keep the turbo forum within the old gen forums. if its something that is not necessary now, the idea should at least be considered should the board have to change its layout or whatever, due to growth or traffic, afterall, this board is going places, keep the road ahead paved.

i doubt it would have strupped the hub, because if it did, it would have started to act up miles ago, vibrating and pulling and all crazy junk i bet before your axle went, you would get a slight tug on the steering wheel that would oscillate in proportion to speed. as far as driving goes, it wont hurt anything if you must drive, as long as the harsh sound of clunking metal bits dont drive you nuts!! remember that you cant take the axle out unless you have a stub outer end or a new axle i took my axle out because the OUTER end busted, thus allowing me to remove the axle, but the spindle end is still there for the wheel. i got almost 3,000 miles and still going, donuting doesnt make the diff or driveshaft complain about torque.

the spfi also has a temp sendor for the ecu. you may want to check that out also dons spfi sedan sometimes wont start at all if its really cold, gets spark and fuel, no fire, even with ether but let it sit and come back the next day and its fine spfi can be screwy, somehow running into a stump and bending the suspension knocked out the fuel and spark, i dont get it

i bet it broke at the doj end. if so yo can get away with leaving it in, because you cant take out the axle if you dont have a stub outer or a new axle, to fox the wheel to! if it broke on the outer cv end, take it out right away. i drove around with a broken axle, till it popped out and tore up the caliper slide pin, brake line, and bent a tierod. just pop the axle pin out, turn the wheel althe way, and use a crowbar to pop it out of the outer end, remove axle the reason the noise went away in 4wd is the dead axle is turning at the same rate as the rear wheel(s). if you do a rwd burnout you will hear it chunking, because the rear wheels are spinning faster than the front as far as driving with no axle, i got at least 2500 miles on mine and still going. right now my only option for front axle replacement is the full xt6 suspension for the front, and the whole rear to fix a bent trailing arm. good thing i have tha parts already. just need to put them on!!

the mods will have to agree on this one.....

i like the idea. i suggested a justy thread, but there isnt much osts about justys. but the same idea with turbos makes sense to me. as the general forum has a LOT of ambient traffic

maybe the Subaru Alliance can make it. but if we can pull of a trashwagon rescue mission before then

Ok, time has come to plan a road trip. The road trip involves driving to idaho, and retreiving TRASHWAGON 5. to all be known i will be making the trip with a suspended license, and a WARRANT FOR MY ARREST in idaho. What? is this another "jack move"?? i am afraid not. this time around i know what NOT to do!! so far the current plan is to set out on March 19. the date is so because a film student in wisconsin has a hankerin to DOCUMENT the trip(this has been a background idea for tha last couple years....), so this would be a good opportunity for both of us So far we need to decide what car to take. The RX, or TRASHWAGON SIX. if the rx goes, we need to fix the wheel bearing. so far the motor is trustworthy with over 1000 miles since the carb block swap. we will bring spare timing belts if one breaks, a 20 minute fis off the side of the road, open belts If Trashwagon 6 goes, by then i will have an xt6 5 lug suspension, a full time 5spd trans. If the legacy axles will fit on the xt6 swap, i will install the best of the four, and take the other ones as spares. the rear axles are good, but so what if one goes if u got full time with diff lock. the only concern is my carburetor, it runs like dook, bad gas mileage, fouled plugs. if i can find a good carb, then its on. because i doubt i will have a turbo motor by then The trip out will run past chicago, around then north to wisconsin, then minnesota, so dakota, wyoming, montana. just before idaho, we will divert north to whitefish montana, and eithe sneak into bonners ferry idaho, or have my car meet us at the state line 30 miles away. all i know is if we get stopped in idaho for whatever reason, i will be going to jail for the time it takes to equal 375 bucks of court costs that have not been paid. it will be 2043 miles out. on he way back, we will be taking US route 2 thru montana, n dakota, minnesota, wisconsin the UP of michigan, and michigan itself to indiana. the ride back is 2037 miles we will ride out in one car, and back in 2. So far MYOSS FEECE will be the driver out. but we need another driver for the way back. so far the only option at this point is ZANNY DOOK, who cant drive stick, isnt hiway travel seasoned but has a license. if he drives back, one of us will have to ride with so he can navigate the higway system, and not get lost I will calculate fuel costs at 25 mpg, and 2.00 per gallon, for 1 and a half cars, for 4500 miles. that will give room for extra fuel for route deviations, and room for extra cash to be alloted for emergency. the total will be 540 bucks. but with that estimate, if gas averages 1.75, then thats 25 cents times 180=45 bucks for extra gas, good for another extra 1125 divided by 2 = 562 extra miles for each car on the way back. i figure mileage will average close to 30 mpg for the most part, so 5 x 180=another 900 miles, 450 miles for each car. but with all that extra slack, it should cover food and other costs with a comfortable margin. 25% of 600 bones will be 150 bucks, if we devote 25% to food, and 75% for gas. and 75 % of 600 is 450, should do it for fuel anyway. I will save up at least 400, if not more, in one month if i can stash away 100 bucks a week. if i can keep 35 hour average then that will give me at least 200 dollar checks, and i dont pay rent as of yet, but when i get my apartment, my rent will only be 25 bucks a week(payroll deduction). Myoss Feece will save up towards 200 bucks to put in. we each pay half of gas on the way out, and pay each our own cars ourselves back. i will cover extra costs as food or hotel if needed so the 19th is at least 4 weeks away. any extra money will go to insurance. What i will do is reinstate my insurance policy on my ride, and add tw5. i need to tenew my plate for tw5, to wear on the way home. if we take the rx instead, insurance will be cheaper for this trip, since the RX is already insured. Since i am going all thru these states, i am down for visiting if anyone is interested, emergency contacts and pit stops. and those of you who missed wcss5, now you can see a PAIR of trashwagons, my cars have never met yet. anyway, that is the plan. if we cant make the march 19 deadline, we may film locally, and then piggy back on the boss's proposed trip to seattle, much easier and less expensive, but not as bold of a maneuver. and i am going to bust a donut in CRAZYBOY's yard if he discloses his address, and if its on the way(check the alliance board)

turn on the heater and select the defrost. if all your selections still blow out of the dash vents, then this will confirm the loose vacuum line like caleb said.

john, i will be using 2wd legacy struts, i would like to see if the legacy axles will fit the xt6 hub. i wonder if the xt6 strut has the ea82 bearing on a legacy/impreza cap? i will consider using the legacy's if the holes dont have to be reamed too much, i would like it to have the ability to go back to stick parts if necessary(cause the parts will later go into tw5 when i get it back here before too long) CORKY, josh's 2wd impreza has a 25 spline, 5spd as far as doj swap, i kno there are 23 spline TURBO doj (3at turbo)that is the same diameter as the 25spline rx and 5spd doj. i am hoping that a 2wd legacy axle is the same diameter, i have a 25 spline doj to play with, but not a 23 also, a 2wd axle is skinnier than a turbo axle, but i have put a 25 spline turbo doj on a 2wd axle, some slop, but it worked till the other axle went out.

here is a small write up on lower control arms http://www.warpthree.com/milesfox/subaru/service/lowercontrol.htm i have put ea82 lower controls in my 83. i weld an ea82 bracket to the ea81 frame. cause the ea82 AXLE is longer i tried it first in the ea81 brackets, but the axle rubbed the frame, and it allowed to extend enough to pop the boot off GD, my alignment was due to chopped tierods that were hastily built, and a wallowed out strut cap. all fixed now the ea82 has the swaybar mount on the front, ea81's swaybar mounts to the strut brace the ea81 ball joint holes are larger than the ea82's to use ea82 control arms in ea81, you will need ea82 inner and outer tie rods. i suggest using the ea82 strut/knuckle assembly with a *slightly* modded atrut cap(spring tools required), so that way you dont have to ream out the tie rod and ball joint holes, and you get bigger brakes, too with ea82 lower control arms, the wheels will be castered slightly forward, and camber slightly in, soo that will give you a better stance for cornering. the width of the track will be slightly wider, nothing that will interfere with the fender and wheels. i had 16 inch 205/55's with this while at it, the REAR TRAILING ARMS between both will mount the same, but the ea82 has a larger bolt on the front part, and is *slightly* wider. if using an ea82 trailing arm in an ea81, trim off some of the metal sleeve in the bushing, so it fits, and widen the holes on the ea81 brackets the 3 bolts on the side will line up, as well as the shocks