Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Today`s Night the Problem Happened Again... :-\ ...and I Decided to don`t Panic and Leave the Lights Switch ON for a While and See What Happens... After two Minutes or So without Dash`s Lights and Driver`s HeadLamp, they Returned ON Again like Nothing Happened, the UnderSteering Wires` Harness was Warm. Lights Failed again in about one Minute... I Think that Something -like a Relay- is Poorly Working, loosen or Damaged and needs to be Replaced. I Hope by Saturday I`ll get enough spare Time to Open the Under Steering Area and look for those Lights Relays...

I Can Try Check the Knuckle, but I`m not Completely Sure which part is That... Any Pics? Thank You!

Well... here Goes a Video I Made of my Yellow Wagon (my Wife is the CameraWoman in the Outside Takes, and I did filmed the inside Takes while Driving ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFRkOR6JBn4 I Hope You`ll Like it, is Nature Related, not only my Subie...

But I Did Try with it: I`ve Changed the "T" Plug about one Hour Ago, then I Did a Li`l Trip and the Light Problems keeps happening, so the "T" Plug wasn`t the Cause. I Noticed that one Wires` Harness under the Steering Column is gettin a Li`l Bit Hot with Lights On. is that Normal? I Think that one of the Lights`s Relay is bad. Could you tell me where -exactly- is located those Lights Relays and any other Helping Idea, Please? Thank you.

Thank you for your Kind Replies, Great Ideas & Pics! Yes, I`ve Changed almost everything Steering & Front Suspension Related. Even more Parts that the Pictured ones (Like the Long Bars that going to the Rear of the Car, I Don`t know their Name, but in other brand cars -like Datsun Pick Up`s- I`ve seen similar bars going to the oposite direction: To the Front) I Know that, here Too... ...Very Bad Parts. Thank you for your Good, Nice and very Intelligent Ideas, they are great Appreciated, for Now I haven`t had any time to fix that problem, but I Hope that Soon I`ll Work Just on it. Now I have Problems with my Subie`s Lights that are more Urgent... Soon I`ll fix Both Problems. (I Hope So) Best Regards, Thank you!

Thank you for your Kind Replies! Yes, it is Fine, I did Changed it with a New (Better) one, back in 2004. That "T" Plug is the one I`ve Writed about above, the one that is Loosen... ...here I only found the Plug, but without the Plastic Locking part that the original one got above; the part that Hooks into the Alternator; that`s Why I didn`t Changed it Yet; I Hope I could find The Right plug soon, but being at work I had not much spare time left untill Saturday... Yes! ... I Didn`t knew that Nissan Sentra`s will work there too, I just heard about Saturns` Alternators on EA82`s but with some modifications on their Surrounding structure... Could you give me more Info about that Nissan`s Alternator Swap? ... Any Thread about? ... Thanx! No Problem, I didn`t Notice that my Subie`s Lights was getting the Behavior of Starting very Bright and then Slowly going Darker... (I Guess my eyes did adapt to their slowly intensity change) ...Until last Weekend, when the Driver`s Side HeadLamp and the Dashboard went off. I Didn`t fix anything yet, `cos I Didn`t found the Right Replacement for the "T" Plug, as I Said; that is just my "Starting" Point to seach how to fix the Problem. if Changing that Plug doesn`t Fix the Situation, Next I Will Search for Loosen Wires Inside the Car, searching for Loosen / Bad Relays. (Outside Wires are O.K.) Did anyone has that problem Before? ... Any Idea? ... Where -exactly- are Located the Main Headlamps` Lights Relays? ... and How are Them? Any Idea will be great Appreciated! Thank you!

Maybe the Three door Coupé?

Thanx for your Kind Replies! I`ve Just Arrived of my Trip, the Lights was a Nightmare, if I Didn`t have the UnderBumper Halogens, I Don`t believe I could drive this night... `cos I Drove with main Headlamps Off. I Checked again the Wires, the only Loosen Part I`ve Found, is the Two Wires` Plastic Plug that goes into the Alternator... Today`s Night I hope I could Change it and see if it makes a Difference in the Lights Behavior. I Believe that the Headlamp / Dashboard Diminution Problem, is related to a loosen part, around the Alternator, `cos Charge goes along Lights. It seems to happens only when I Switch High Beams, after a minute or So... (too much power drain for a loosen part, I Believe) ...and in low Beam, the charge seems to be not enough too; let me Explain: Before the Problem my subie was doing -reading the Dash`s Voltimeter- around 14V without Lights, around 12.5V with Low Beam Lights and just around 12V at High Beams; but Now it seems to be 14V without Lights (But Now that reading change to just 12V or 11.5V for shot times, then back to 14V as the car moves in the Road, so it became Unstable), Barely 12V with Low Beam, and 10.5V in High and then Diminution occurs. Also when it Happens, the Diminution won`t Go, even if I Switch back to Low Beams... Only Switching Off the Lights and Back to On will Revive `em, but I did Drove with Lights Off, Just with the UnderBumper ones to Prevent bigger problems. The Voltimeter Gauge Behavior lets me think about a Loosen Wire around the Alternator, but if So: Why it seems to go only one of the two HeadLamps? I`ll go work for now, and let`s see this Night if Changin` that Loosen Plug will Fix this up! Thank You!

Well... but People there are more concerned with Driving Security and have more Respect for other Drivers and pedestrians, (I Drove around 1,600 Miles along Florida in 2001 -in a Friend`s Honda- from Miami to Orlando, Key West, Fort Lauderdale, etc... it was a Great Diving Experience!) not like Here... :-\ ...in my Country Some Drivers are even Worse than Cows on the Road. I need to Rectify something: Yes, my White Wagon have Electrical Problems with the Lights, maybe I was Wrong; Let me Explain: I am -right now- in a Family Trip, last night, while Driving in a Muddy / Rocky Road, with slow permanent Rain, when my Subie fell on a Pothole (we was at around 20 / 25 Miles Per Hour) the Driver`s Side Headlamp went off, and the Dashboard... ...only Left on the Passenger`s Side Headlamp and the Blue light High Beam indicator at the Dash... I Turned off Inmediately the Lights (The UnderBumper Halogens was Off all the road, `cos we where offroad, but they are in a Whole Independent Circuit right from the Battery) Then, I stopped the Car, tried again with the Lights, they went On, and I Checked the Volts Indicator at the Dash, it was doing around 12.5V, then after few minutes going, another li`l Pothole and Passenger`s Side Light went off, the Dashboard`s Lights went off 85% so I did saw the Voltage Gauge at around 11V. So I Switched off the Main Lights and Drove with only the UnderBumper Halogens. Short Circuit? ... Loosen / Damaged \ Worn Lights Relay? ... What it could be? I Don`t belive it is Short Circuit, `cos I Triple Checked Wires and Everything is Fine, no burnt Fuses, etc... It is the First time I got that Behavior in 23 Years of having that White Wagon (1985) so, could it be the Lights Relay? I Don`t Know exactly where it is or how it Looks Like... but I Have the Idea, `cos sometime ago I Changed all the Air Conditioneer Relays with Bosch ones. Please, help me; any Idea is Welcome. Thank you so Much. JesZeK

Well... I Believe You. As a "Popular Mechanics" Magazine Fan (in Spanish, is called "Mecanica Populár") I Read it every Month almost since I can Read, I Remember an Article about PotHoles in some of those Streets, and the Road Tests made there... I Think my Li`l Developing Country is an Ideal Place to do Road Tests.

So, is there Anybody with Experience with H.I.D.`s on Loyales to give us FeddBack? Thank You!

First: Thank you All for Writing. and Yes, I Think they`re Very Bright when I Hold the the Beam in Both Low and High Position at the Same Time... (My `85 White Wagon can easy stay like that alone if I Leave the Stick in the Middle) ...But it makes me to ask another Question: is Safe to keep the Car with Both Low & High Beams at the Same Time for long time periods? Well... I must say that I did Wired Directly to the Battery one Headlight, both the Positive (+) and the Negative (-) with another Bulb`s Plug... Both (The Car Wired and the Battery Wired Bulb) did look the Same. Let me Explain Something: My Subies have Good Lights, enough for City Driving; but I have had been in very Dangerous Situations during Night / Rainy \ intense Traffic Driving situations, due -in part- to Poor Lights, but let me Explain: To Understand better, please Consider this Facts: First: Here in Honduras, due to the Lack of Laws & Regulations about Car`s Lights and other issues... (Like Open Exhausts, Too Noisy Stereos, etc... ) -there are many many Ricers here- ...many people had install in their vehicles, H.I.D. Conversion Kits, very Bright and some with Offending Colours (Could you Imagine very bright deep Purple or Blue? ... is Pathetic) but many other People did the H.I.D. conversions -Not only Ricers- without any adjustmant to avoid to fry incoming driver`s Retines... :-\ ...and here are too many H.I.D. converted cars (Mainly at 8000K Bluish-White light) Here in the Market you can find easy 50W H.I.D. @ 8000K Converting Kits that says "Not for Sale in the U.S.A." and so other Parts... Second: Considering the said, plus Fact that here already are too many new cars / trucks that came with H.I.D.s (Like the new Hondas, Toyota "HiLux" Quad Cab, Mitsu "Sportero" Double Cab, Isuzu "DMAX" and several Chinese & Korean brand Cars & Trucks, etc... just to mention some, all with H.I.D.`s) There are Too Many Cars with H.I.D.s :-\ I Imagine that there in the U.S.A. and Other Countries, the Story must be the Same, but: Third: Considering that mostly Our Roads are Not very Wide (In Fact, the majority are just the Wide to allow one car on Each Side, one Comin` and one Goin` and That`s All) you Drive very Near the Incoming Car and almost every car got H.I.D.`s or at Least a Pair of bright Halogens... Four: is a Shame, but Honduran Drivers Usually Forget to Down the lights to the Low Beam during incoming Traffic... Five: Ussually there are too many Vagrant Animals on the Roads, along to Rain covered PotHoles, Drunk Drivers... ...Yes, to Drive here is some sort of risky Adventure. Six: Some Horrible Experiences due -in Part- of Poor Lights: Beside the PotHoles my Subie did Fell on the Roads, about a two months Ago, I did a Family trip on my White Subie, with my Sis, my Wife and my Mom (we Where Going to a Family`s friend Wedding) and during the Trip, in some part of the Road, I Was Driving around 35 MPH, it was Slow Raining, and an Old Pick up Truck was Coming -slowly too- in the Other Way; I did Switched Down the Lights to the Low Beams, so the Other Driver Did; and then, when the other car was about twenty meters in front of us, we saw just a Shadow crossing between both cars, I Switched High Beams and didn`t saw Nothing; the other Driver did Switched to High Beams Too, just then we Heard a Huge Impact Noise: a Horse was There, the other car did Hit the Horse`s body by side directly, the Horse screamed horribly loudly, I Stopped my Subie Inmediately and we Saw the other car very damaged, passing over the Horse`s Body! It was Horrible, the Other Driver lost Control and passed too Near (Really Scary too Near) of Us, then Stopped. We Helped him Untill his Family Reached to the Area, he got just Minor wounds but his car`s Front and other parts -as the Rad- was Destroyed, the poor Animal was Dead and all of us very sad and Nervous... He said he did not saw Anything, so like Us, we did not saw Anything, just Shadows, and we where Driving Slowly... Seven: I Think that with Brighter Lights, we should saw that Horse, because in similar situations, the Incoming Car with Brighter Lights did made a Shadow enough heavy to Warning us about the Animal`s Presence there. Several Situations like That, in Many Many Years of Driving, makes me Think that the Subie`s Headlights are mostly intended for City Driving, or Somewhere else where Incoming Traffic Lights aren`t too Near & Too Bright, Like HighWays... Here are some HighWays and There seems the HeadLamps work Well, also they illuminate Good off Road too; but with Near Incoming Lights, Subie`s Lights seems to be Absorbed... That`s the Situation why I Installed a Pair of 100 Watts -Each- UnderBumper Halogens, they are the Ones that are Giving me Safer Illumination -as you can see on the First Post`s Pics- and it Makes me Think -by seeing the Headlamps On, along the UnderBumper Halogens On- that the HeadLamps Should be as Bright as the UnderBumper Ones, to get Safer, better Illumination. Thank you all for Reading this Large Post, but I Hope that now You`ll Understand Better my Driving Situation. Thanx!

I Suggest you to Install those Fog Lights, in a Independent Electrical Circuit just for Them, Right from the Battery. That`s how I Run Halogens on my White Wagon since 1993 with no Problems. Good Luck!

Oh!, Thank You!!! ... I`m Glad that you Liked it! The Metal Shifter is Heavy, but it Adds Shiftin` Attitude. it is Brand: "Jiealöda" from Germany; I know that many people Won`t believe that, but Little Changes like this can give a Very Different Driving Experience on a Car.

31320GA200 and 31320GA190 was the Wrong Tie Rods that the Dealer`s Salesmand sold me, Just Curious: Are those from Legacy or Newer Loyales? Which one is the Right Part Number for my Subie? I Just Found a "555" Japanese Brand at an AfterMarket Store, they didn`t got Part Number Shown on the Part itself, so I Don`t Know it and the Subaru Manuals I Got are Far Away at Home (My Parents` Home) Thank You!

Well... after one Hour or so, analyzing things at the Wheel Alignment Center. No, No, and No. Those parts seems to be in Good Healthy Shape, and There`s No Rust there at All... Nothing like that There. Due to the Negative Camber Problem, I Dissasembled Both Front Struts: Everything is AllRight There, I Checked the Spring Coils, Struts, etc... They`re Good. Then I Found Weak Ball Joints and Tie Rods, so I used some money I Got of Selling some Wooden Speakers I Made, and -aside other Things- I Buy the Brand new Parts, See: At the Dealer, they sold me the Wrong Tie Rods, `cos the 90º Little Bolt was too Thick and did not fit my Subie`s Part; so I Returned those Tie Rods to the Dealer (They gave my Money Back) and I Purchased the Right Tie Rods (brand: "555" Made in Japan) so, there Everything is New... Even some other Steering Parts where Recently Changed, see: I Went Again to the Alignment Center and the Negative Camber Problem Persists... :-\ ... Yes, I Agree... Please don`t let me be Misunderstood: I just was Thinking about to Apply some Force to the negative Strut Tower, to push it Back to the Outside a Li`l Bit, and Then (Just Then) Install the Bar Between Struts, just to Reinforce `em. Yes, it Measures 40 ¼" too... ...Mine got 35 ½" ... So, Everything seems to be Fine, but the Negative Cambers Situation, Persists... Any Idea? Thank you!

Great Idea, I did that too. Also I Wanna add that Shorter Shifter Doesn`t Interfere with the CD Loading / Unloading at the Stereo, and Avoid to Hit it on Rush Shiftin` Situations...

Well... I`ve Posted this Pic Before, it is my Yellow Wagon`s Shortened Shifter, with Stainless Steel + Aluminium Knob to add "Feeling" Shorter Shift is Better (I Think) also I Think That`s Why Newer Cars comes with Short Shifter too... Your Shortened Shifters looks Very Nice!

Yes, Of Course I Agree... The Problem is that Anything seems to be Bent, is just like The Whole Strut`s Tower Area on the Car got Moved a Half Inch or So to the Inside from its Top... I Didn`t Explain my Idea Well: I Was Thinking about using a Tool Called here "Spandex" or some alike, to Force the Strut`s Tower (I Don`t Know the Right Car`s Area Name) to go Out a Li`l Bit, and Then use the Said Bar, as Reinforcement. What do you Think About? Thank you for your Kind Reply!

Thank you Soo Much for your Kind Words & the Explanation of "Kudos" ... ... Everyday we Learn something New from Each Other... This is one of the Greatest Things of Life, and this Great Site Helps us Soo Much to Learn from Each Others` Experiences.

Remember the Thread about the Huge PotHole on the Road, where my Subie Almost was "Swallowed"? :-\ http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=73725 Well... I did Hit a Smaller -but Horribly Deep- PotHole last January in my White Wagon... ...and I didn`t Notice anything Wrong on my Subie after that (I went under the Subie and Checked Everything)... ...Untill last weekend, I Checked the Tires, and I Found Something Wrong on the Passenger`s Side Front Tire... The Inner Part of the Inside`s Corner of the Tire was "Eaten" ... the Tire was Almost about to Explode... with the Nylon Ply Revealed out! While the Rest of it was in Good Condition! I Went to an Alignment Center, and it was Very sad for me to Discover a Camber Alignment Problem on my Subie... The Camber Angle identifies how far the Tire Slants away from Vertical, when Viewed directly from the Front or Back of the vehicle. Camber is expressed in Degrees, and is said to be Negative when the top of the tire tilts inward toward the Center of the Vehicle, and Positive when the top leans away from the Center of the Vehicle. So my Subie got the Front Passenger`s Side with Negative Camber and there is no Way for an Easy Fix, `cos it is Fixed Part. This Image Gives the Idea... my Subie`s Wheel Sees like the Green Line. I Remember that some months Ago, I Saw a Subaru Loyale EA82 that got Installed a Thick Bar from one Strut`s Top to the Other, right above the Engine (Between the Front`s Struts) and it got Adjustment (?) I Don`t Remember well... I Rember that the Bar was Attached to the Strut`s Tops with a Metal Plate, that got the Three Holes for the Three Strut`s Bolts and a Center Hole for the Strut`s Top. So, the Question is: Could that Bar, Be a Good Way to Fix the Negative Camber Issue on my Subie? it goes around -5.5º Any Idea, Advice, or the Place where I Can obtain that Bar, etc... is Welcome! Thank you All... Best Regards. JesZeK

What is the Meanin` of the Word: "Kudos" ? and Please: Stop Fighting!

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About the 9007 Bulb's Swap on 9004 HeadLamps... I went that Road Before and I don't Recommend that at All. Why? ... Some years ago, I was trying to Upgrade my Wagon's Lights, and I went across a Fine Pair of 9007 that said 100W High Beam / 80W Low Beam; so After I did the... ... I Discovered two Ugly things that Happened: The Hi / Lo Beam Pattern Goes from one Side to Another, instead of Up and Down. The Grinded part (I Did it on the Bulb's Base instead of the Lamp's Housing, but the Effect is the Same) did Allow Moisture to Enter the HeadLamps, Because the Bulb's Base doesn't seal good anymore; making Rusty and Darker HeadLamps... That's Why I Changed the HeadLamps, as I wrote Before. So, very respectfully let me tell you that such swap is a very Bad Idea. Kind Regards.

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