Loyale 2.7 Turbo

The Phantom P-0128 Code and its Real fix ☼ During all these years and thousands of miles with the "KiaStein" on the Family, I've noticed that the "Check Engine" light on the instrument cluster, randomly comes On and Goes Off without any apparent reason. I've used my Scanner to check the Codes via the OBDII system, and the results always points to a bad reading of the Engine's coolant Temperature, giving the Phantom code P-0128 which means that the ECU believes that the Temperature on the engine is Below where it should be; however replacing the Sensor never changed a thing, nor changing thermostats. You must be aware that the Earlier versions of the T8D engine, had Two different temperature sensors, one for the Gauge at the instrument cluster, the other for the ECU, while newer versions of same engine, only shares One sensor for both functions, see: Also I found lots of information regarding such code, online; this is an example:

The use of Seafoam spray on a Regular EFi engine, will clean up the excess of carbon Deposits, gum, varnish and other sludge buildup, from the upper engine and combustion chambers; while lubricates in the Process. I did that, because the "KiaStein" has a problem with a Phantom P-0128 code on the ECU, that makes the ECU to think that the engine is running cooler than it should, making too much Carbon Deposits and if you let it idle for prolongated times, regularly, it will foul the Sparkplugs. The excess amount of carbon deposits had made a small but noticeable "Flat Spot" on the early acceleration of the T8D engine; when moving from a fully stop at idle, the car was making more noise than movement from idle speed to past 1400 RPM's; so this procedure was Necessary. The results: No more rough idle, faster acceleration without flat spots, noticeably mainly while starting to move the car from low RPM's by recovering the low end torque; improved fuel consumption and less contamination; besides elongating the engine's lifespan. Search further information online. The total time to do this Cleansing, is around Half Hour, and the "KiaStein" really feels more peppy than before.

The only other thing I did, prior that trip, was to use a full can of "SeaFoam Spray" Treatment, on the "KiaStein" to clean the upper engine

I forgot to write, that the car has this persistent "Non-leaking oil" status, since the late days of March, up to date. ► Edit: I'll try this on my Subie's EA82 engine, as soon as possible.

The use of Seafoam spray on a Regular EFi engine, will clean up the excess of carbon Deposits, gum, varnish and other sludge buildup, from the upper engine and combustion chambers; while lubricates in the Process. I did that, because the "KiaStein" has a problem with a Phantom P-0128 code on the ECU, that makes the ECU to think that the engine is running cooler than it should, making too much Carbon Deposits and if you let it idle for prolongated times, regularly, it will foul the Sparkplugs. The excess amount of carbon deposits had made a small but noticeable "Flat Spot" on the early acceleration of the T8D engine; when moving from a fully stop at idle, the car was making more noise than movement from idle speed to past 1400 RPM's; so this procedure was Necessary. The results: No more rough idle, faster acceleration without flat spots, noticeably mainly while starting to move the car from low RPM's by recovering the low end torque; improved fuel consumption and less contamination; besides elongating the engine's lifespan. Search further information online. The total time to do this Cleansing, is around Half Hour, and the "KiaStein" really feels more peppy than before.

The only other thing I did, prior that trip, was to use a full can of "SeaFoam Spray" Treatment, on the "KiaStein" to clean the upper engine

The thing isn't "Magical" for sure, the leakage continued identically for the first two days of the trip; then it started to decrease in a notably way, to the point that by the end of the 1172 miles long trip; the car almost stopped leaking; it only needs a couple of ounces of motor oil, weekly... Far different from the Half Quart it was leaking weekly, prior to this Treatment. However, I changed the motor oil on the car, and poured fresh 15W~40 Valvoline's high mileage synthetic motor oil, without using any more of that treatment, and despite that the "Motor Oil Saver" treatment only stayed for 1172 miles, the car continues to Not drip oil on the Floor, and is only using two ounces of oil per week. So, this Product is really Outstanding, at least in my own experience, which I decided to share here, in order to Help other drivers that might be in need of this kind of Help. I know I will need to do the seals job in the Future, but I'll do that untill the Leakage becomes worse. For now, it seems to be almost not leaking a drop, and keeps like that without further use of the additive. As ancient chinese wisdom says: "Do not fix what is not broken" ... I'll keep the things going like that, as long as possible. My wife drives her lifted car, fully confident now. Kind Regards.

Since I was running out of time; I chose to Try one can of this Product on the T8D engine

I've never believed too much on oil additives, designed to Stop Leaks on engines; almost all of them have failed, except the QMi but for Manual Transmissions, which still, after many years, has stopped the seals on my Subie's trans, from continuing leaking, somehow. But I needed a fast and reliable solution, to avoid leaking too much motor oil during the above mentioned Trip; so I asked some of my Friends who are old Local Mechanics with vast experience, and two of them told me wonderful stories about a German product, called: "Motor Oil Saver" which is sold in Honduras under two different brands from the same makers; Lubro-Moly and Liqui-Moly:

Well, after Decades (Literally) of using only Mineral 20W~50 motor oil on the EA82 engine of my beloved Subaru "BumbleBeast", I decided to try Synthetic on same number, with Valvoline's High Mileage motor oil, a couple of years ago; Also I went synthetic 15W~40 on the T8D engine of my Wife's car, the "KiaStein"; and both cars suddenly developed an oil Leakage; due to the extra detergents on the Synthetic oil, that removes age old varnish deposits that -somehow- helps the Seals to do their Job. The Leakage on both cars, requires an engine reseal; but due to the Lack of time / money \ spare parts (for the Subie), I only kept refilling the oil as necessary, while I could do the Job; however the Leakage on the Subie is pretty small; maybe because I've used Motor Flushes on its engine, every two or three years; but the Kia's leakage became worse each month; leaking from the rear main seal, where the engine mates to the automatic Transmission. The Kia's leakage went to the point of requiring half quart of oil, weekly, leaving an awful mark on the pavement where it is parked daily... and prior to the recently past Holy Week, I finished to install a Lift Kit that I designed and made, on my Wife's car, and she refused to drive it, until it will be fully Tested, I did many test on it, but didn't suffice to fully convince her, somehow. So, I decided to use the nine days of Vacation from said Holy Week, to do a Trip across three countries of Central America, with my family (Photos here), Testing the Lifted "KiaStein" on the Road, with them; I was completely confident that the small Lift I did, kept the Car's alignment and suspension geometry under Specs, keeping its Handling Behaviour; so I convinced them to do this Trip; however, the Oil Leakage was worrying me, and I we were running out of Time to fix it properly, prior to the Trip...

The thing isn't "Magical" for sure, the leakage continued identically for the first two days of the trip; then it started to decrease in a notably way, to the point that by the end of the 1172 miles long trip; the car almost stopped leaking; it only needs a couple of ounces of motor oil, weekly... Far different from the Half Quart it was leaking weekly, prior to this Treatment. However, I changed the motor oil on the car, and poured fresh 15W~40 Valvoline's high mileage synthetic motor oil, without using any more of that treatment, and despite that the "Motor Oil Saver" treatment only stayed for 1172 miles, the car continues to Not drip oil on the Floor, and is only using two ounces of oil per week. So, this Product is really Outstanding, at least in my own experience, which I decided to share here, in order to Help other drivers that might be in need of this kind of Help. I know I will need to do the seals job in the Future, but I'll do that untill the Leakage becomes worse. For now, it seems to be almost not leaking a drop, and keeps like that without further use of the additive. As ancient chinese wisdom says: "Do not fix what is not broken" ... I'll keep the things going like that, as long as possible. My wife drives her lifted car, fully confident now. Kind Regards.

Since I was running out of time; I chose to Try one can of this Product on the T8D engine

I've never believed too much on oil additives, designed to Stop Leaks on engines; almost all of them have failed, except the QMi but for Manual Transmissions, which still, after many years, has stopped the seals on my Subie's trans, from continuing leaking, somehow. But I needed a fast and reliable solution, to avoid leaking too much motor oil during the above mentioned Trip; so I asked some of my Friends who are old Local Mechanics with vast experience, and two of them told me wonderful stories about a German product, called: "Motor Oil Saver" which is sold in Honduras under two different brands from the same makers; Lubro-Moly and Liqui-Moly:

Well, after Decades (Literally) of using only Mineral 20W~50 motor oil on the EA82 engine of my beloved Subaru "BumbleBeast", I decided to try Synthetic on same number, with Valvoline's High Mileage motor oil, a couple of years ago; Also I went synthetic 15W~40 on the T8D engine of my Wife's car, the "KiaStein"; and both cars suddenly developed an oil Leakage; due to the extra detergents on the Synthetic oil, that removes age old varnish deposits that -somehow- helps the Seals to do their Job. The Leakage on both cars, requires an engine reseal; but due to the Lack of time / money \ spare parts (for the Subie), I only kept refilling the oil as necessary, while I could do the Job; however the Leakage on the Subie is pretty small; maybe because I've used Motor Flushes on its engine, every two or three years; but the Kia's leakage became worse each month; leaking from the rear main seal, where the engine mates to the automatic Transmission. The Kia's leakage went to the point of requiring half quart of oil, weekly, leaving an awful mark on the pavement where it is parked daily... and prior to the recently past Holy Week, I finished to install a Lift Kit that I designed and made, on my Wife's car, and she refused to drive it, until it will be fully Tested, I did many test on it, but didn't suffice to fully convince her, somehow. So, I decided to use the nine days of Vacation from said Holy Week, to do a Trip across three countries of Central America, with my family (Photos here), Testing the Lifted "KiaStein" on the Road, with them; I was completely confident that the small Lift I did, kept the Car's alignment and suspension geometry under Specs, keeping its Handling Behaviour; so I convinced them to do this Trip; however, the Oil Leakage was worrying me, and I we were running out of Time to fix it properly, prior to the Trip...

You're Welcome! Thank you for your kind words. Are you having troubles with the Strut Top Blocks, or the Spacer blocks for the Crossmember? I kindly suggest you to share here with us, Photos of your Blocks and placement issues, This will aid to see exactly What's Happening, so we can help you in a much better way. Kind Regards.

You're Welcome! Thank you for your kind words. Greetings from Honduras.

I posted a lot of information and Photos regarding same subject; also on a '85 GL, here: ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/106807-improved-shock-absorbers-and-spring-coils-on-loyales/?do=findComment&comment=1302391 Yes, that's not easy, and people usually don't tell the complete story, so I wrote it as complete as I could. Kind Regards.

I posted a lot of information and Photos regarding same subject; also on a '85 GL, here: ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/106807-improved-shock-absorbers-and-spring-coils-on-loyales/?do=findComment&comment=1302391 Yes, that's not easy, and people usually don't tell the complete story, so I wrote it as complete as I could. Kind Regards.

We came back home, Safely; thanks to God, after that 1172 miles long trip. (photos on the link above) The "KiaStein" is always ready to go on its Next Adventure! Kind Regards.

The "KiaStein" has a Roomy interior, despite its small exterior size Even the back seat has generous space, which made our long voyage, confortable; and the Suspension improvements + Lifting I made, really improved a Lot the overall vehicle's performance at Handling; especially under heavy load conditions; no matter the kind of road of offroading that we are doing; it outperforms most of the cars on its segment and size. So, I'm glad to tell that the Suspension improvements are really a Huge Success.

Well, I've been on all the seven Central American Countries... ...Recently I did a 1172 Miles long trip to Costa-Rica, Driving the "KiaStein"... ...which performed Flawlessly for a car of its Age and Mileage. Please follow the web link below to see some Photos of said trip: ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/87725-an-open-request-to-loyale-27-turbo/page-17 Kind Regards.

Thank you for let us know the Results. Kind Regards.

Understood Jonno, keep the images comin' Kind Regards.

...or are you writing about the metallic inserts to place the screws? At some point, there was a change in the production, to improve them.

Maybe you obtained the Part for the EA82 with MPFi "Spider" styled intake manifold, while the other is for the Regular EA82. Kind Regards.