mickytrus

Yeah timing belt.... pull distributor cap... see if rotor turns...... there are 2 belts so pull the cover on the passengerside belt.. where the cam gear is.

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Schutz-Rubberized-Coating-Black/dp/B000PEQGMM (requires a gun... but well worth it.) this is really great stuff. goes on just as good as the oem.... I remember when I did a couple of these... I went sofar as getting rid of that stupid rubber trim on all the wheel wells and I bondoed up the holes that held on the rubber trim... after shooting the whole bottom and wheel wells I put a piece of masking tape halfway in (where the rubber trim used to be) and sprayed a fake rubber trim with this stuff. there is also a product called "rocker schutz" which I believe is paintable... and is what is on the subies rockers.... I usually just scrape this stuff off clean... and then paint the rocker with out it.... but you can by rocker shutz...... Also another goodie... is 3m window weld... http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/home_leisure/-/node_GS51JKDTTHgs/root_GS2MT8MCQBgv/vroot_BWFLZ648DFge/bgel_PNC6H0CVTWbl/gvel_V81136SWNHgl/theme_us_chimpartnersupport_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html it is a little pricey but fills holes pretty good..... or spots where you can weld rivet with this between the metal...(it aint going nowhere) (where gloves don't get this junk on you.. don't come off.... as bad as pur-15 as a skin clinger I almost lost my subie... the wheel wells rotted out... and the struts popped through....... make sure you wash then out good... there are too many nooks and crannies in there.... AND my subie is in the Hospice right now... the lower piece of the rear suspension rotted out . the tube the trailing arms are connected to............ run a ton of water through there(the tube) If you want to keep you car as long as you can... got to fight against the rust with preventative.... measures........ Good Luck!

keep it spinning as you tighten the bolts just to see what is up...... Also, good idea to pack it with vaseline. this will ensure that the oil get sucked up quickly.

I got a car wash that lets my wash my greasy pig.... Engine degreaser is on the selector at the carwash. Yeah, those motors love to leak....... even the head gaskets.. will leak oil or antifreeze.......... I used an anaerobic sealant(made by lock tite) on the cam seal's o-rings that did the trick and on the cam boxes that helped..... if a head gasket is leaking oil it will be on the corners (front or back) I actualy sat and watched it drip out.... when a new head gasket is installed... mill the heads... and make sure the o-ring in the head gasket is installed when the head gasket is installed.... this is where it leaks the oil(on a head gasket oil leak) AND then there is blow by..... at that point, not much one can do..... excessive pressure leaking by the rings into the crankcase. just a complete mess.... this is my greasey pig... she is in the Hospice right now with 285,000 on her..... already started pulling parts off her for the other greasy pig I got...... but, maybe she will be resurrected......... I must agree... I do like these cars..... I have had 4 of them...... don't know if I will find another on the east coast.

Sounds like a bad axle cv joint...... do some figure 8's in a parking lot at like 5mph... Should hear bad clicking if it is a cv joint...... steering might get jerky as well.

Numbchux, Thanks for the pics It is 4wheel drive.... Yeah the piece that is rotted out is the one the trailing arms bolt to Your third pic down clearly show the location of my dilema. It is at the outer swivel point.... I'll go and get some pics to post post some pics for laughs:(:(

Yeah sure there is rot on it.... front frame is still ok.... Two years ago redid the wheel wheels in the back... they were rotted out. I have painted this car twice now... not planning on a third..... like if it is not a big deal I will do the job really looking for some info on anyone who has pulled a rear suspension out.. or even worked on one...... I did the rear drivers side wheel bearing less than a year ago.... not a very fun job needs impact tools.... So Has anyone spun out those rear crossmember bolts? What was it like..... To what degree of a nightmare is it.... If anyone can explain the steps to pull this thing out.. that would be cool. Otherwise, I will stare at it for a while...... to figure it out...... Just hoping you's could save me the trouble Thanks, Mickytrus

Hi This might be it(funeral services) for the car.... 285k It is a 91 subaru Loyale wagon was hoping I would get to 300k I have the spare parts, so it would just be labor... Here are the details. The rear passenger wheel leans in at the top..... I had to drive at 40 miles perhour... for 200 miles. to get home....... I brought it into the garage...... to check out the problem...... If you want to call it the lower rear cross member... maybe that describes it well enough..... basically this is the part which runs from wheel to wheel and the lower control arms connect to. (when I put jack stands under the car to support the car this is where I hold the car up... It is tubular in shape and hollow.... Well, It snapped... seems to have rotted out from the inside out.... So the question... is... Has anyone ever replace one of these.... basically, the whole rear suspension has to be pulled out. (or a good chunk of it) Like I said, I have an extra one.... just wonder if I should do it...... I am a glutton for punishment..... This can be seen by trying to get 300k out of the car Thanks, Mickytrus

I have had mine rot a ton of times.... They are not that sophisicated......... I can't help you with size.. can't remember... but it is fairly simple job... their is a weird cannister on some of the lines near the pump.. usually the canister rots out..... Just replace it with regular line....... I live in the salt region........ these cars rot out big time......... I use por-15 rust paint on the lines... I sop the whole underneath of the car..... Otherewise I would be replacing this stuff all the time. I even had a fuel pump rot out on me..... that was 400 bucks.... probably 10 years ago.... so I paint everything under there.... fuel lines brake lines suspension.......... Don't give the dealer your money....they don't deserve it.......

Yeah, I took my covers off my 91 a long time ago.. take off the inner one too.. Dont' over tighten the belts. I usually just let spring tension hold the belt.... An over tightened belt will break... Slightly off topic but, a similiar experience.... It had to do with intake gaskets.... It was a 93 sedan that I had... I would put the gaskets on... and the driverside intake would evently spew anti-freeze.. It would take a week or too..... Thought it was me.... I think I did this job three times before posting......... Well, I got it fixed by someones recommendation. THe recommendation was use OEM gaskets. I did... and it didn't happen again...... I am not necessarily saying that is your problem but, I must say parts are not being manufactered as well as they were.. I got water pump bearing going on my 91 (just found out today) great....... I swear I just changed it.... I wish I could find the receipt..... Maybe it was two years ago....... Micky

Ok so I can check for out of roundness of the hub with an outside micrometer. And I should check both, where the inner bearing presses in and the outer bearing presses in... What is the allowable amount of out of roundness..... .003,.005 .007 .010

I have a 91 Loyale and a 93 both are wagons. the 91 got new motor mounts when I redid the car. that was about 5 years ago @ 158k. Now the car has 262. so the motor mounts have about 110K on them. Just recently the exhaust front pipe broke. I still need to fix it... the welds cracked on both parts of the pipe off the heads, where they are welded to the cat. visually, the motor shakes when I rev it. so the idea with bad motor mounts burning wheel bearings is that when the motor is twisting constantly back and forth, back and forth due to the motor mounts this puts stress on the axles as they spin which then places stress on the spinning wheel bearings. Over time it prematurely wears the wheelbearings out... If you drive straight down the road, the wheel bearing is quite.... turn the wheel any slightest amount and you hear the lovely grinding sound...... Some one mentioned possible bad hubs..... can you describe a bad hub. how to determine a bad hub. I replace bearings on the passengerside of the other car the 93 and the inner bearing is toasted now..... It is probably about 15k old. I was even considering the possibility that they are manufacturing these bearing poorly.... So I got some dealer bearings.... It didn't make a difference...... I was even think that the grease is lame............. but I have used this grease in other bearings(but those were tapered roller bearings) really, I am changing wheel bearings more often that I change spark plugs..... Any insight would be greatly appreciated... Micky

Hello, I need to get some motor mounts. Ea82. Loyale 91 and for my 93...... Where is the best place (price)... It eats wheel bearings... inner wheel bearings fail at like 20,000 miles.... I am figuring it is the motor mounts causing this.... Any thoughts...... And what about swapping with a 2.2 Thats EJ motors........ How expensive can that get.... Say you already have the motor for the swap.. Micky:-\

thanks bert.....

Hi , Looking at leasing a subie forester xs....... 5spd manual... can any one out the give me any insight... into this topic.... I am looking get a lease through a leasing agency... and not the dealer........... any clues help or insight would be appreciated.... Micky

That is cool! Yeah, I hope I can have this one for a little while....... Dumped a ton of cash into it.......... rides and feels like new.... workin' on the smell part....... smells better than the other old subie I was runningg... that one between the leaking window and the rotten flesh from the meat shop on my feet.... uhhhhhhh! pics soon!

Yeah, The car is just about done... It is harder now to finish it, now that It is being used every day..... Spent much of my time working on the car(subie loyal 1991) from February to end of June......... As some of you have been involved in the thinking proccess by answering my questions.... and it has been much appreciated...... There at the end I though I was gonna lose it......!!!!!! First time starting up the car and it wuz blowing more smoke that an opium room from the 1st dynasty................ But all is well.... It is so well!!!!! Begginnning of July I rolled "trixie" off the Jack Stands and drove her from New York to Texas and back in six days round trip.... Covered 14 states in 6 days.... about 3000 miles..... the shocker here is that (160K).. on this pup.... It used only 3/4 of a quart of oil........ and it leaked a little out the oil fill tube where it joins the head(wasn't tightend enough)..... fixed that in virginia... Yeah, I was obsessively checking the oil and checking for leaks the whole ride............. the wife was getting tired of it! she was like don't worry about it.... it is ok.................................. Hey, I finally have a subie that I can change the oil in.......... I don't just add it!!!!!................ she is running like a new car...... Yeah, so back to the name thing......................... the wife and family saw very little of me those months working on the car........ She would always make remarks(joking) you are gonning to go down and spend time with that other woman(referring to the car). So while on the journey to texas..... the brought it up again........ I said, well if your gonna refer to her as "that other woman" then she should a least have a name............ So I thought to myself............ what would be a good name.... that is when it came to me...... to go with the (circa burlesque 1920's-1930's) name............ there the name popped into my head..... Trixie!............. So my Subie has a first name!!!!!!! I'll post some pics of trixie after I get her buffed out and put her trim back on......... anyway, thanks for all the help and insight...... Micky

Shirt! i would be curious to know that too! just for the hey of it.

Yeah, thanks! it was that switch......... Why do they have that there?????? Is it for drag racing??????????????????

ok, gladly give this a whirl!maybe I hit it when I was 409ing' the grime of the dash.. that would be cool!... Micky

I have a strange electrical problem..... seems as though the rear tail lites are always on..... and the liscence plate lite..... always on...... now.... Maybe I didn't notice this initially after I got the motor in.... maybe it has been doing it ever since.................. that point............................ I just didn't notice........ possible............. One thing to mention................ I still have the fenders off.... so the parking lites in the front are disconnected...... I have seen in the past weird stuff happen( with another subie loyale that I have) ... It was when the alternator shipped the bed....... the whole dash lit up like a Christmas tree.......... So what do you think???? I wont have the fenders on for a while.... Hopefully tommorrow but, I still have to spray the hood..... wanted to put that on first...... UHHH hopefully soon get this car done.......... SUpposed to drive to Texas with it next weekend......... Slight road trip... Mickyt

Thanks! for the info/insight/expertise....... I look foward to driving it around.......... I am in the process of spraying the hood right now...... need to get the fenders on and undercoat it....... so close yet so far............... but. it sounds reassurring that I shoudl be in the clear...... I will watch for those things mentioned.............. Micky

Why are you interested in flushing the inside of the motor........? I have heard alot of differing views on this...... the one I stand behind is this: the tolerances in a motor are very small... only several thousanths of an inch on moving parts...... Varnish inside the motor will actually fill spaces that are small ..... and varnish can actually fill in worn spaces on bearings..... because we are talking thousandths of an inch here.... so these flushes can actually remove these deposits(this varnish) that you would not necessarily want to remove... So I would say not to flush the motor with anything.... just be faithful to change the oil frequently...... micky

Well, the subie is running..... ran it the other night.... I still have some things to explore which can only be done by more running.... So as to the issues uncovered at hand so far....... as said early, the vehicle was not idling.... and it was hoofing out anti freeze in the exhaust.... the anti-freeze left a clear greezy puddle on the ground at the tail pipe............ So anyway, As I said I should check some of the emission hoses and sorts before I go diving into taking this motor apart....... too painful.... 172 bucks in OEM gaskets...... Only if I must utterly do so......... It appears as though I had mistakenly crossed some hoses..... The egr was not running into its solenoid... and I didn't have the air suction solenoid going to the manifold......... and the egr mounting bolts we not tightened..... (which I found out after I switched the hoses around)...... well like I said it is running..... and it seemed to be running really fine..... and quiet as hell..... (new timing belt hardware). but, I must still be skeptical......... I am concerned still about all that antifreeze... hoofing when I had all that stuff above mixed up......... I don't have a clear explanation for it........ I am gonna have to just watch it... and I may have an oil leak on the passengers side of the motor.... again ... I will have to watch it..... It could just be power steering fluid that is sitting some where.(very little leak indicated by the cardboard I put under it after I ran it.)... when the motor was out it had leaked out of the reservoir......... I have to add some........... So If someone out there may think they might have an idea why the above problems may have caused or enhanced the antifreeze leak I would surely like to know.............. Micky

Well I have many things to persue this evening.... It is definetly anti-freeze...... coolant somehow getting into the combustion chamber. This is clear by the puddle of greasy "clear spooge"(missing the green dye #3 - also found in many of our foods) that has condensed on the floor below the tailpipe...... I am gonna start with the least painful first.......... I am thinking the throttle body is agood place to start...... and I must make sure that I had put all my hoses on correctly when I did the motor install for the emissions stuff(not to have some how crossed one of those lines with the coolant line/lines).......... I put some late nights in on this car....... so it could have happened......... sometimes long hours put in on something just leads to long hours correcting things....... GOod ol' Ying and Yang................... So I will use your input as I guide to solve the mayhem........ I will let you all know what the end results are as soon as I know.............