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Your welcome, just didn't wanna confuse anyone who may not know what one is and spread misinformation.

Thats not a triangulated 4-link. This is tho...http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/suspension/154_0603_jeep_suspension_four_link_lingo/photo_04.html As far as "how" goes, I have put a very limited amount of thought into this, but I think it may be possible to use the rear suspension crossmember to mount the 4 link to. Ya, I know it is still only bolted to the unibody, but there are ways to reinforce that. My lifted car is somewhat subframed and it wouldn't be very difficult to modify it to accept the 4 link setup you speak of.

6" lift, 15" re-drilled yotas, 29"x8.50" bias swampers, and 235/75 wildcat EXT's. Front radius rods sleeved and extended 1.25". FRONT: Removed valance below the bumper. Front of fender folded in. No (zero) cutting/bashing behind the tire, only rub ever so slightly at full lock when seriously off camber/stuffed. REAR: Minor bashing in the front of the wheel arch, removed factory mudflaps. No rubbing at all, ever.

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Heres my locker.......

Here is mine, mounted to a 5mt d/r behind an ej22, loyale wagon lifted 6".

I'll try an get a pic up for you tomorrow-ish...

I totally agree, I noticed a HUGE difference after xt6-ing my loyale... The thing is on rails! My complaint now is that it only looks fast.....

I am using the EJ style pitch stopper bracket on my 6" lifted ea82 wagon (ej swapped). It is extended and sleeved. I had to re-weld it once because the welds broke, which leads me to believe that... The first welds were not strong enough, and yes, torque is transferred through the pitch stopper and it is useful to have in there. My $0.02 Spencer

heeeaaay! suhweet ride! that's the plan for mine as well nice work!

Thanks! I added the extensions a couple weeks ago. They're made out of "draft curtain" material, same stuff used in the doorways of walk in coolers etc. I acquired a bunch of off a job I'm workin on. I think I'm gonna make flaps for my lifted soob next! The stuff is super soft and flexible should hold up well. If anyone is interested in some I'm willing to share! Thanks buddy, I'm glad your car is back on the road for you also. I got the swap done ya, but not done at the same time. Now I'm having alignment issues, I couldn't get the camber right and I figured out why. Looks like one of the xt6 control arms is a little tweaked.... Grrr... It went totally unnoticed at first but after double triple checking everything and taking measurements i noticed why. So it looks like I'l be reaming an ea82 one to accept the larger ball joint and then, it should be *done*.

5 lugs anyone!?

Bigger pain that I originally thought, but is worth it. I think some of the difficulty is in using the ER knuckles as opposed to the EJ knuckles, There are some minor differences that make complications. Made hybrid axles, used nissan sentra front struts, got er' handled.... Planning on making a post of my "recipe" if anyone is interested.

^^^ I agree with Gloyale. $0.02

^^^^^ Glad I could be of help buddy! Don't hesitate to call again if you need a hand with anything. And thanks for the killer deal on the mtn bike I appreciate it. It's good to keep cool old soobs on the road! Spencer

AFAIK the knuckle is still in the car. I went over there a couple weeks ago and drove the car but didn't feel/hear anything that concerned me at all?! I've been in contact with him a little over the past couple days, and I may stop by there today. He definitely needs a bigger hammer! Probably a proper punch too. Spencer

Just another bit of info from a different website..... Impreza: L NEW CV COMPL ASSY FRONT - IB SPLINE COUNT: 23 - OB SPLINE COUNT: 27 - OVERALL LENGTH (MM): 683 - INBOARD ID: FEMALE - BASE MODEL - L - LS XT6: L NEW CV COMPL ASSY FRONT - IB SPLINE COUNT: 25 - OB SPLINE COUNT: 27 - OVERALL LENGTH (MM): 676 - INBOARD ID: MALE - XT6 According to these dimensions the difference is 7mm. I ordered a set of EMPI's for 53.95 each, free shipping. Sweet Deal! Spencer

I do have a perfectly good 91 legacy wagon w/ 5mt (for swap parts).... The plan is to swap the ej/awd into the ea82 wagon (I know this means going back to 25 spline doj's). I was just doin this swap stuff one thing at a time. I wanted to keep the e-brake setup on the front (for simplicity), wasn't planning on tearing into the legacy until I was ready to start messing with the wiring. It sounds like I may be better off taking the knuckles/calipers off the legacy as far as having a little more room for axles, but I don't like the idea of not having a parking brake, and don't want to setup for rear e-brake right now (don't have the 200sx calipers etc.). Also, the research I did today showed very little difference in axle length between the xt6/impreza. Unless the info I got is inaccurate there is only 5/16" difference, the impreza being longer. These measurements came from a baxter auto parts website, they are supposed to be compressed measurements. 26 5/8 xt6 26 15/16 impreza I'm kinda in subaru swap limbo right now. I should have xt6 axles here on monday, along with the different seals mentioned earlier by numbchux (which I won't need if I use the xt6 axles in the xt6 knuckles). I returned the impreza axles, before finding out the minor difference in axle length (depending on accuracy of source). I'm not against using the EJ stuff instead of the ER stuff, although I would like to keep a simple parking brake. Bottom line is...... I want my car back!! It seems like this shouldn't be such a pita, I am very mechanical and this has me somewhat confused, because so many people have done this before me and I am using others experience for my info. My frustration mostly lies in this. I bought BRAND NEW: Rotors-f/r Pads-f/r Ball joints I inspected the front wheel bearings, everything looks/feels great. Just had nearly new potenzas mounted on 16" wrx alloys painted gloss black I recently installed NEW rear wheel bearings in xt6 rear control arms and am running xt6 sways front and rear. Also have skunk2 coilover sleeves on the stock shocks/struts (the front sleeves won't fit over the wrx struts so that may be a ride height issue). The car handles phenomenal even with the 185-70-13's, I really want to have the larger brakes/tires. I can only imagine!! I WILL get this finished, may take me longer than I'd hoped, but will get done. Again, many thanks to those who are offering advice on this. Spencer

Not thinking boots, thinking about hybrid axles.... So I guess what I'm going to attempt is xt6 axle with ea82 doj. Soooo, I'm assuming here, but, the xt6 axles are shorter than the impreza ones (?), only with a 25 spline doj. Meaning, as stated earlier, I can get xt6 axles and swap 23 spline doj's onto them and everything should fit...... Right? Grrrrr, no local parts stores have xt6 axles, soonest I can get em' is monday, which will kick off my work week, which will interfere with working on my car, which means jackstands and driving the outback till I can get back to the swap..... Frustrating...... Spencer

^^^ Awesome! Thank you. Now, does the outer (cv end) come apart similar to the doj end? Geez I feel like such a noob asking all these questions......

Thanks Gary, I guess my next step is to try the different seal that numbchux posted. There are none available locally, but I can have one on monday. I think what I'll do is remove the seal, try and fit everything together, and go back and install the correct seal if/when I overcome whatever is holding me back. This is frustrating! I know I'm not pioneering anything here and my situation is not unique! I thought I had all the info I needed to get this done and now my car is gonna be sittin on jackstands untill I get it all figured out. Thanks to all who are helping here. Any info is helpful. Spencer

Do you know if the legacy axles are shorter than the impreza axles? Also did they make a 23 spline doj legacy axle like the impreza? Cool, Thanks! I will try this afternoon/evening. I don't wanna neysay or anything, but it looks like changing the seal will gain me another .25" or .5" of engagement into the outer hub, i'm not sure that will be enough. When I was putting it all together last night, the doj was on the tranny, and outer cv was through the hub (as far as it would go, only looked like it could come through another .25" or so). To get the lower strut bolts into the knuckle I still had to push the knuckle in about another 1". This was with the ball joint in the hole. Then the suspension was still gonna have to compress another couple inches or so. It was just looking very unlikely that everything was going to work. Regardless, I will buy the other seal and try. Ok, I've never tore into axles... yet.... Are the xt6 axles shorter than the impreza ones? Because I don't have any and would have to buy some to start messing around wit hybrids. I was looking at them lastnight (axles), ea82 side by side with impreza, made new (not rebuilt) by the same aftermarket manufacturer (wohn). They have the same size axle shaft itself, but I don't know about spline count going into the cv. What i was thinking I'd have to do is pull the cv end off the impreza axle and marry it to the ea82 axle. I see your talking about changing the doj end, can I just change the cv end instead? I will search about making axles before asking any questions about it. I'm not looking forward to tearing apart brand new axles and potentially ruining a good product and making it non-returnable, also I'll have to buy a banding tool to re-secure the boots. Thanks for the replies! Spencer

I am right in the middle of doing a 5 lug swap onto my loyale wagon. I have searched and re-searched many many times before starting this so as to not run into any surprises/speed bumps along the way. Everything I am using is xt6 stuff other than the front struts, they are wrx. The drivetrain on the loyale is 100% stock, ea82/single range 4wd, 5mt. The problem I am having is axles, unless I totally misunderstood what I read, what I need (and bought) are 93-94 impreza FWD 5mt axles. They are too long. Based on rough measurements it seems like about 1.5-2" too long. Other than length everything else is fine, outer spindle, inner doj etc. Am I supposed to make a hybrid axle using the ea82 axle shaft and the impreza outer? Did I read something totally wrong? I'm not trying to ask a redundant question, I thought I had done enough research to get this done efficiently but it seems I haven't. Please help, and thanks to all who will. Spencer

Suprised no ones asked yet...... Will it wheelie!? I bet the front end gets light at the very least! Nice ride, I approve . (as if my approval means anything.....) Spencer

3609100074, gimme a jingle I may be able to come by tomorrow afternoon sometime and at least help you diagnose! Maybe this evening i dunno! Spencer