Thanks a lot. I was working on it, but it got dark and really cold, so I'll go back after it tomorrow. I appreciate the help. I'm going to look at an '88 gl xt, 5 speed, fwd tomorrow, too. It sounds like a sweet deal. Any advice on it. I've never driven one before, but I love my '86 gl, so becoming a total subie family's okay by me. The '86 is my wife's and it's an automatic, but it's been good to us. We started out looking for a brat and had no luck there, but hope springs eternal.