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I would also like to thank a couple of mates - Jesse for giving me the snorkel and Vince for helping out with the original (the start!) adaptor, then the modifications to fit the snorkel to the adaptor inside the inner guard! Cheers Bennie
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G'day all. I thought I'd share my snorkel conversion that I've done to Ruby Scoo. This particular modification was done to an EFI air box that's factory with the MPFI L series. The base is factory L series and the top is factory EJ. I started off making this adaptor for the airbox into the inner guard: This is a 2.5 inch exhaust pipe stretched at one end to 3 inch then squashed to the oval shape to fit the air box. The tab loop is for fastening. Ultimately when this whole thing was done it would have been easier to start with 3 inch pipe and keep that size the whole way through. The snorkel is from a Mitsubishi Pajero, NK/NH/NJ 1990 to 1996ish without the flare modification. I hope you guys got them over there! The most important part was nutting out the fitment of the snorkel, namely to find out where it would poke through to the inner guard for the rest of the adaptor work: I used a "dead" front guard on the spare L series, held the snorkel where I think it needed to be, marked where the main hole should go and ended up with this: Marked where the bolt holes need to go: Bolted on to the guard: This is what it looks like dummied up on the car, some bending required: Once the bending was complete: ^ I also bent the top tip of the snorkel to make it sit flat so that the head attachment looks like it should be there rather than being cocked to one side. Bending was done with the snorkel filled with sand and a heat gun. The sand stops any distortion of the snorkel while heating, more of a precaution than anything. I've heard of people using a blow torch but I reckon that'd be too hot and change the texture of the plastic's finish. I had access to an electric heat gun that did the job very well. Now that I had that sorted I made a template and went from there on Ruby Scoo: The big moment where it was imperative that I get it right! This is the same adaptor above once we were done with it - We shortened the side on the inner guard and welded a 3 inch piece of pipe to it on a 45 degree angle. The angle that it faces up is also off centre to the oval part of the adaptor, so that the upward piece is vertical. Included in this image is the cut down 3 inch silicone pipe that joins to the snorkel in the inner guard: Fitted without the guard: ^ Next time I have the guard off I need to put the wiring over the top of this pipe work... next time... Also note that you need to come up with a new washer bottle setup. This one is temporary but will no doubt live here for some time. The washer pump fits nicely into the inside of a soft drink bottle's neck with the factory rubber piece. I've use a cooking oil bottle and some heater hose as the adaptor between the two. It's one litre which isn't much but does the trick. Fitted with guard and snorkel all hooked up - very happy with the results! The guard's wiring should go over the top of this pipe work - something I'll do next time I have the guard off. While I had the adaptor out I shortened the end that's in the air box - it was about another inch longer previously. The adaptor also copped a lick of matt black paint just to make it look good and stop rust (maybe). Between the adaptor and the sheet metal is two pieces of closed cell foam matting (the camping matt stuff, can be seen two images above), and between the sheet metal and the air box is three or four pieces of the same foam - this is here to help seal up the air box intake hole. I've also bolted the top of the air box bottom piece to the side of the engine bay to help squash the foam. The adaptor is screwed in place from the outer guard side, this also squashes the foam to help with the seal. The finished product: I need to get some more angles of this for a better view on here, and drop the camper off the roof too so I can really see what it'd look like on the L's body. There's less induction noise than what I was expecting until you hit 4G rpm at WOT - then it's just a roaring angry EJ sound! But that's only when you've got the window down... Cheers all for having a look. If you're after a snorkel just have a go at it! The inner guard work is usually the hardest bit to sort out once you've got the snorkel sized up and sorted I think I've got all the details in here, if not, ask away! Cheers Bennie PS - feel free to drop your snorkel's conversion guide in here too!
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G'day fellow conversion nuts! I'm after the wire or a "how to" wire up the thermo fans to the ECU of the EJ engine. I've got an '88 L series with an EJ22 installed. I've got the thermo fans running from the stock EA radiator thermo switch. Recently I've been thinking that it would be more beneficial to have the ECU operate the thermo fans rather than letting the radiator potentially get hotter than the ECU wants it to be before the fans kick in. Anyone done this with their conversion(s)? Here's a couple of pics of my ride and conversion: Regards Bennie
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G'day, I'm running an EJ22 in my L series - I'm looking at adding a scan gauge to my setup to further monitor the ECU and engine parameters when out bush. I've seen them on my mate's OBDII subarus and they're a good unit - my problem is finding one for the OBDI system. Has anyone got one on their early legacys or can point me in the right direction of a suitable unit for the OBDI system? Regards Bennie
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5sp d/r disassembly - question
el_freddo replied to b88185's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Once you've got that pin out and the lever removed use a rubber mallet to gently tap one of the cases to help them separate Cheers Bennie -
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el_freddo replied to Godsmulligan's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I'd recommend a three inch lift - struts and body; keep the stock springs and struts as this will keep your CV angles at stock. Then it's just your tyre combination. You might find they will still rub on the chassis rail - I've got a 3 inch lift in my L series with 27 inch tyres at the stock offset and they rub at full lock behind the front axle on the chassis rail. At the end of the day it's up to you how high you go. The lift kit should have the correct camber adjustments built into the strut lift on the front end Cheers Bennie -
^ What they said... then send me your rear 5 lug setup Seriously though, it shouldn't be too hard to work out the front end setup if you're really keen to use the 5 lug setup. Cheers Bennie
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G'day Phiz, Why not make an exhaust similar to a turbo setup but turn it around to pop out the bonnet where you've said - this way you can still join it and have the bash plate protect it where it passes in front of the sump. I think you don't have to join them for performance, rather for comfort so you don't get a crackle or thrumming sound (ever hear the Holden 253 V8 with separate twin exhausts crackle?) - but that shouldn't be an issue for racing. Cheers Bennie
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If you're going with 29 inch tyres and can get the pinion shaft cut and shut I'd recommend the 4.44:1 ratio diff - but you've got to shave more from the ring gear to fit the L series low range than you do with the 4.111:1 diff ratio. But it's still strong enough for the job. Just putting it out there. Cheers Bennie
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Here's a couple - ignore that they're EJ gearboxes but the principal is the same as what you're after: Outback 1.59:1 low range conversion with 4.11 ratio diffs Forester 1.59:1 low range conversion with 4.11 ratio diffs Both do the same thing but in different ways Regards Bennie
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No idea where that went, but it would involve finding one of these FT4wd dual range gearboxes first - then swap the Ring and Pinion gears/centre LSD for the EJ 4.111:1 Ring and pinion with the matching EJ centre diff and rear housing. Then you'll have a dual range 4.111:1 diff ratio'd AWD Dual Range gearbox. Clear as mud? Cheers Bennie PS - should I mention I'm still chasing a FT4wd centre diff in good condition???
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thumping when on the gas or on the brake
el_freddo replied to johnw's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Also check: - the stay pitch rod or what ever it's called - the one from the engine to the firewall. - gearbox crossmember bolts - centre bearing bolts - rear seat is bolted in properly - nothing is loose in the storage space in the boot - something could be rolling around in there... Cheers Bennie -
You guys would be wetting your pants with the EJ dual range gearbox I reckon! That thing's not my cup of tea, but it's pretty awesome to see in pics! What's next in the mods? Cheers Bennie
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EJ22 Swap Question Tachometer Setup
el_freddo replied to hackasubaru's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
For my temp gauge and oil pressure warning light I just hooked up the EA wire at the engine to the EJ sensor. I really need to get around to doing the resistor mod on the temp sensor to make my temp gauge more "factory active"! And for the Tacho, I picked up the yellow wire behind the big plugs for the dash board above the driver's feet - this way I don't need to worry about the EJ wires when I remove the dash board - it's all still a plug and play setup without complications EJ's look (and go) awesome in the L series! EnJoy! Cheers Bennie -
Funny steering wheel acrobatics
el_freddo replied to crazyhorse001's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Yeah check the rack is still in nice and tight. Also check to see that the steering column itself is bolted in properly under the dash board. I would say that the issue would most likely be with the rubber disc between the rack and the steering column - might be time for a new one. If you've got power steering you won't have this little rubber disc Cheers Bennie -
What? No pics! That's blasphemy right?! Cheers Bennie
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Thanks mate! It'd be great if you could - but it's a long drive across the puddle, plus I doubt the crazy subarus you build over there would be allowed on our roads Even offroad your vehicle has to be registered... Regards Bennie
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Why do you guys love the EJ22? Confused...
el_freddo replied to nobangmycar's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
The EJ22 is basically the same as the SOHC EJ20, just the displacement is different in principal Also part of the EJ22 conversion (L series and MY specific) is that it's been done before and a known conversion - plus it's an awesome power and reliability upgrade on the EA82! Sorry, I gotta vote the EA81 for most bulletproof engine ever designed. The other one is the Holden red 6 cylinder, the 186 comes to mind - a great engine! Cheers Bennie PS - any RXII coupes getting around out your way? I'd love the gearbox, rear diff, diff lock switch, grille and instrument cluster from one - or just the whole thing (if I could ever afford one plus the shipping and import taxes etc) in good condition as we never got them in Oz -
Also remember that the belt could have skipped a tooth or two - this can drastically alter the way the engine behaves! Cheers Bennie
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G'day all, Here's my trip report from our latest trip - We're in Victoria, Australia, the trip took place in Wyperfeld National Park (-35.494779,141.985931), Big Desert Conservation Park (-35.523285,141.486053) and Little Desert National Park (-36.501081,141.931). Plug those coordinates into google maps and you'll see the areas I'm talking about Vehicles: Mine - Blue L series "Ruby Scoo" - 3 inch lift, Ej22, L AWD gearbox with locking centre diff, 4.11 ratio diffs, L series 1.59:1 low range and front LSD 27 inch tyres Venom - Green Liberty, 2 inch all around lift, H6 conversion, L series 1.59:1 low range, DCCD centre diff, front and rear LSDs Pezimm - '07 foz XT auto - one inch strut lift and HD springs. That's about it for mods Bboypebs - '82 Brumby (BRAT), 2 inch lift, 29 inch tyres, weber conversion on the EA81 Subaruby - pretty much stock '06 foz Dulagarl - ~2000 model foz, H6 conversion, Front and rear LSD, subaextreme front and rear bars, stock 2L foz 1.447:1 low range So, Saturday the 21st of September saw four subarus en route to the Wyperfeld National Park. After having some fun fitting everything in the car we were off and ended up meeting at Yapeet Beach Camp as our camp of choice was taken - for the week. I arrived with Pezimm after dark, this is the meet point just before we took off on Sunday morning: We headed towards Wirregren Plain via Wonga Campground. This is the ~8km slow meandering driveway into camp with the other subi's in tow: The Crew at Wonga fitting sand flags/checking out some of the history of the area: From here we headed out towards Snow Drift via North/South and Eagle track to name a few. Since we were so close to camp and the day was still young we took a bit of a detour into camp, so we checked out what was going on at Casurina Campground before heading on to Snow Drift. This is where Ruby Scoo had an issue that appeared to be fuel vapourisation, not much fun to deal with but we got going again. But after passing a large convoy of other 4wd's the issue reared it's ugly head again on a slight hill, so we were pushed out of the way to let the larger convoy continue on their way - they were headed to Snow Drift to camp the night. We got Ruby Scoo going again and continued on our way to camp where we found a large gathering of vehicles and kids in the area as well as the other 4wd group. Love this pic. You can see how chewed out the side of the dune is from sand boarding activity and from those (like us) that just head up for the views or to watch the sunset. A great day of driving must have tuckered a few out Those rims are hot too, they really set off an awesome vehicle! Here's a pic of the camp from the top of the dune. And Bboypebs in the light of the sunset. The sunset. It was great to be back out here again! Heading off from Snow Drift across Wirregren Plain along Gunner's Track on Sunday Morning. I found this sign to be a bit out of place so I thought I'd share The start of where Gunner's Track became a lot of sandy fun, the stuff prior was solid fast mud pan that was a good bit of fun, but we were after sand, sand and more sand! Looking up to where we were headed up Gunner's Track. We headed into Underbool to fuel up, grab a quick hot shower (that turned out to be a bit premature since it was only day 3!) then take off again for the sand - this time searching for a way into a certain (awesome) firebreak track. Whilst finding our way into the park again we came across this cheeky little Thorny Devil Lizard. These guys were also found sitting on top of wooden fence posts and as we approached they'd slide down the side to hide - something I'd not seen before with these lizards. Couldn't help my self with this pic - One of the great angles of the L series This is one of the reasons we love this track, usually a "virgin" track to follow, it's soft, fast, up, down and winds around a bit too, sometimes there's a mix of those factors which can make it quite a technical track. Here's Pezimm on the Firebreak Track. Bboypebs finding the only bit of mud on this track - still loving it though! I'm sure everyone loved this track, it was as fun as last time and I'm sure we'll visit it again next time. I had the same problem as the other day with the fuel. I'd tried to insulate my fuel lines but apparently that didn't do anything - this issue occurred again later on too. It was getting very frustrating! It was thought that the fuel pump could have been letting the side down as it certainly seemed like a fuelling issue. This took some time again which meant we were running out on our long leg to the planned camp for the night, so we decided to camp up a bit further down the track rather than push on into the night. In the morning I was keen to get to Murrayville to pick up another fuel pump from the old holden dealership there. Long story short they didn't have an external fuel pump on the shelf, the head mechanic tried to tell me there wasn't such a thing. After a chat with the boys we swapped the fuel filter out as it was the oldest part in the equation. Got one that was very close to original but it fitted so I wasn't fussed. Then we headed off to Big Dune hoping that it wasn't my fuel pump that was going to pack it in. This is Big Dune from the "car park" area on the side of the track. Venom had a go at the middle track (the one he's on in the pic), far left track then stuck with the middle a few more times before he made it to the top. He puts this down to a couple of things: very low tyre pressure, the DCCD with a rear bias and most of all, driver ability! These pics don't do the effort required to get to the top any justice - it's a massive dune, the tallest in the area that towers over everything below it. Some of the tracks created in the climb up the dune. Since making it to the top it was time to attempt "Big Dune Two" - but most of the effort was done as this was a simple climb. The pic above is Venom on Dune Two. Another pic of Venom at the top of Big Dune, this time looking down among "those who try" - and they tried! Pezimm had a good crack at it but "failed". We convinced him to air down further (not enough in my book!) and he got to this level: "Almost made it". Bboypebs had a red hot go in the mighty Brumby but the gearing just wouldn't let it be. He had a fair crack at it a few times! I unfortunately failed in getting some pics of the Brumby having a go - apologies! Here's Venom about to slide his way down the dune. After Big Dune we cruised around a number of tracks, Venom found this little beauty near the bottom of Cactus Bore Track - this one climbs a small dune that gives a good view of what's around - I think Ruby Scoo models it well! Here's Pezimm coming up the same dune behind Ruby Scoo - you can't wipe that smile off his face! Here's a driver's perspective of part of the the track we were cruising along. This track was a good drive with some soft sandy sections on the curves as you start to climb a small dune, I know I really enjoyed it! The convoy arriving at Red Gums - a crap place for a camp site!! I thought I'd enjoy Red Gums with a Red Rum - because I could! Camp setup among the gum trees, the only ones in the area! We found that this character had been here before... The sunset on our way out to another dune where we intended to watch it from. We made it to the dune but it was done by then. Ruby Scoo atop the dune on dusk - we caught up with Venom and a few of the boys who made it there in time - they left well before I did! While we were out here we decided to play on the dune - it was a part of another 2 dunes. Venom was keen to try a difficult climb to see if he could do it - this is him coming up to the last corner successfully. The middle dune was a piece of cake, the last one was a bit more difficult - I had about 4 goes at it and ended up airing down to about 12 psi - and got it! Venom was already down low. We watched the late dusk and checked out the surrounding area with the remaining available light. Then a small night 4wd session to get back to camp for dinner. This is one of our specialties when out bush - Parma's. Can't beat a good bush parma! This is how we found one of my tyres in the morning after they'd cooled off. I think they showed about 8 psi before I started to inflate back up to somewhere near 18 psi for the day. Today's travels was checking out some other camp grounds, one turned out to be interesting, another to remember for a later trip and the last one wasn't worth the effort to get to. Along the way we found this little guy, Captured this image, And found possibly THE biggest Mallee Root you'll see any where! At the one to forget this was this mud puddle to have a go at, easy stuff: This mud was stinky disgusting stuff - it was very thick, to the point where only some of it flowed back into the hole. I managed to collect this stick on the windscreen when going around Pezimm and clipped my sand flag on a tree, I then got it stuck in the windscreen wipers - I make a note of this stick as it kept Mrs El Freddo laughing for a good half day, and that's not any exaggeration! From here we headed south towards Milmed Rock, stopping at Pigeon Springs for Lunch. We came across this little fella on the track on our way into lunch, I followed it into the bush as it was the only blue tongue lizard we saw and it had an awesome "tiger" stripe pattern. Hitting up Milmed Rock with the crew. Quite a bit of sand had moved off the track in places before we got here - it has been interesting noting the change in the sand conditions from our times out here. Again, this interesting tourist has already been here! We were off again, enjoying the sand…. It was along the Milmed Rock Track before Round Swamp that Ruby Scoo again ran into trouble, but this time is was different - it was a very sudden stop. When I tried to start her there was no fuel pump priming occurring. I felt a little bit sick at this point - then decided to check all of my fuses - one was discovered to be a bit dirty from the swamping she saw in 2010, so I swapped it with another fuse in a different slot and we were off again! Dodged a bullet there! We camped at Round Swamp Campground - from here we unfortunately said bye to Pezimm as he had to return to work the next day. For the rest of use we got cracking into getting a fire going to burn the mallee root we found along the way. This is how you light a fire with a (small/tiny) Mallee Root offering. Unfortunately a few minutes after lighting the tower fell over, but it continued burning. Later in the night we were sitting around enjoying the fire when we heard what we thought was a 4wd convoy cruising through the bush - but they never passed the camp ground (which you have to in order to continue along the track). Thinking it was odd we forgot about it. Then we thought we saw some lightening, but not all at once. It wasn't until we heard the distinct crack of thunder that we knew what was coming - at that point it was all hands on deck to "fortify" the campsite for the coming rain. We threw a tarp over our camper as we've not done anything about the leaks and this is the easiest way to deal with it at the moment. The thunder and lightening was really spectacular and the rain was coming down hard for a few minutes in waves. I loved it! This is how we setup Ruby Scoo for the storm the night before. From Round Swamp Camp we were headed to Lake Albacutya, then Rainbow for fuel and over to OTIT if it was free, otherwise it would be Yapeet Beach again. The thing that swayed us to do different was the strong and constant wind that had emerged as the morning went on and the desire to do Purra Tk from West to East again - then hit up Rainbow for fuel after working out which camp to stay at for the night. Here's a couple of pics of the track with the different conditions along the way: f And this is what happens when the driver's mind is in neutral when it decides to get out of the bumpy ruts - without doing anything except reefing on the steering wheel: What I should have done was drop it into low range and given it some prior to the steering wheel work. Venom gave me a gentle snatch and I was out of there easy. The three remaining subarus on Purra Track. We decided to check out some other areas of the track that were showing up on the GPS's - that made for some fun. As you can see, this part of the track is nothing but a goat track now. There were sections that were very narrow between the scrub, we were lucky to get through I reckon! We ended up getting to OTIT on some tracks we didn't know existed until now. It was unfortunately still occupied by a tent/caravan city. I hope it's not trashed now. Either way OTIT or Yapeet Beach Campgrounds were too windy in these conditions. The decision was made to fuel up in Rainbow and high tail it for Snow Drift via the sand as the black top is simply boring by comparison! On our way up to Snow Drift we came across this little fella - it was great to see so many lizards out this time! Snow Drift turned out to be a great choice, there was only a breeze there. After some communication with Dulagarl Friday's place to meet up was decided. We had Snow Drift to ourselves for the night The next morning we headed back to Wonga - I was starting to think that I was getting sick of the "commute" through this place! But it was still a good drive. Back to Rainbow to fill up and continue heading south where we met up with the Wimmera River at the Ebeneza Mission. Along this section of river there's a solid crossing we saw in July 2012, Dulagarl went through it. This time we hit it as I thought the river would be in the stage of "going down" so will be lower than last time. Except once I hit the water I felt the car get a bit lighter and realised there was also a bit of a current. It was good fun - then we had to turn around and do it again - no issues... Bboypebs crossing the Wimmera River. From sand to mud/solid river flat tracks - it's quite a contrast and unforgiving for a wrong move. A bit of fun. Dulagarl should remember this place. Venom did it easy mate Once at camp it was a bit of a relax session: Bboypebs had a bit of a fish - but got nothing except a few lures lost… Later Dulagarl and Subaruby joined us for the last leg of the trip. It was great to catch up with them non the less! Camp in the morning. Then we headed off towards Little Desert NP, some river track to cover first though: Venom getting down and dirty, Subaruby in the new ride getting it dirty stripes sorted. Dunny stop at the highway rest stop. Little Desert was quite a change from Wyperfeld and Big Desert in terms of vegetation - it really did feel more desert like with the lack of trees, plus it was pretty windy! We ran into this place "Eagle Camp" - not a bad place for a camp ground so we took the opportunity for a group pic with the "new additions" to the convoy. As we were about to head off we spotted this water hole and thought it could be a bit of fun. We enticed Bboypebs into it relatively easily - it had something to do with mentioning the might Brumby and the deal was done. Unfortunately this is how it panned out: So it took a mouth full of water upon entry of the water hole. Once out and most of the interior drained it took about 15 minutes to remove the plugs, turn over, replace plugs and get it going again! After talking Venom out of the temptation to put the liberty through it's paces Dulagarl decided he'd nail it with his mods and the snorkel. This is how it went: Venom had to snatch Dulagarl out - Dulagarl lost the use of his clutch on one of the attempts at pulling himself out of the water hole - he "almost made it" - but that's what they all say! We eventually got the clutch working again and we were off. I reckon the dirty water "deposited" it's grit in the fingers of the clutch as it hit the flywheel and clutch mechanisms, this grit held the clutch open when the engine was running. By shutting off the engine and pumping the clutch it seemed to come good. There was one time after this that it seemed to slip again but with the same trick it didn't seem to return. After cruising around a number of tracks it was decided that lunch was in order. It was a great time to be in the desert as the grass trees were in the process of flowering... This is Subaruby remembering that the foz is not the MY wagon… It was great to see him having a good crack at this mud hole! I think an LSD or two should be on back order! Unfortunately at this point the Brumby wasn't very happy, but Bboypebs kept it going as frustrating as it was. At the end of the day we finished up at Round Gum Swap Campground. ^ I couldn't help my self with another "selfie" of Ruby Scoo... After a great trip out here for just over a week it was time to call it a day - eventually! Bboypebs and Subaruby headed off after a couple of longish byes; The Ruby Scoo crew stayed for dinner before heading off home. I know I didn't want to end the trip just yet but all good things must come to an end! Thanks to Venom for the early behind the scenes talks in the planning of the itinerary, Venom and Bboypebs for "sticking around" with me for the duration of the trip; Pezimm, Subaruby and Dulagarl for attending the times they could due to work or other commitments. Once again, a great trip - I really needed it! Thanks for taking the time to read this Cheers Bennie
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Been done before. If you can find a rear diff with output stubs that matches the ratio of the gearbox used you'll only have to swap the rear diff up the back. As for the front end, some mods to the engine crossmember are needed for the turbo up pipe and if running the EJ gearbox you're looking at modified gearbox crossmember, gear linkages and tail shaft length. The rest is small stuff and the wiring... The search function will net you all the nitty gritty details you're after Cheers Bennie
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This is an awesome conversion, I'm onto my second one now - also with 4.111 ratio. But I've gone the other way, into a dual range EJ casing (Oz spec!) to make fitting the EJ engine in much easier. You'll love the AWD! Cheers Bennie
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Just swap the rear discs in - the proportioning valve is fine! I've done this with my L series - with fresh fluid, new rotors and pads you'll have AMAZING L series braking compared to what you have now! Cheers Bennie
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Mike, You can make up an external rod to operate the low range - otherwise it's milling/drilling time and work out how to seal it and what sort of rod to use to pass through it. This is what I'm up to on my FT4wd gearbox conversion. And no, you can't use the PT4wd rear casing, the centre diff just doesn't fit. Here's a pic of the two gearboxes, FT4wd in foreground, PT4wd in the background: And the PT4wd in the foreground, FT4wd in the background: Hope this helps. And if anyone wants to ship me a good centre diff out of one of these EA FT4wd gearboxes I'd be most appreciative. Cheers Bennie