it ran before this... barely, and i didn't unplug anything that might be like that. everything seemed right perhaps only a hair off... did the belt jump you think? something like that.... any thoughts? I'm going again tomorrow to investigate again. I'm getting really good at getting in their now lol. and you guys are very helpful. I'm glad your not a bunch of punks who know nothing or don't try to help. makes me happy to see Japanese car owners who care do you think the motor might have died or the valves are to bent? it wont even start up now. i don't know if this helps but you know how a Chevy cranks? clunk clunk clunk vroom? this doesn't sound normal.. its almost one continuous crank very smooth sounding. only started to lope as the battery died out. maybe that's normal. this only my second Subaru i ever worked on. hope its just a matter of trying again. i also didn't unplug the battery for this work? maybe its memory is jacked up and i need to unplug it?