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Thanks Skip! Trust me, I don't take your advice with a grain of salt. I'll just stick with a Subaru PCV valve for now on instead of the Pep Boys brand.

Hello Skip, I'll be doing a bit of searching now on this subject but could you point me to a post or two about this problem? I have been having some oil leak issues on my XT6 for years (like who doesn't on old school subarus?) and it seems everytime one leak is fixed, another springs up. My dipstick used to come out all the time also. After having that rubber ring on the dipstick replaced, it doesn't come out anymore but another leak sprung up not to long afterward on my oil pump. The oil pump is new as well as the gaskets and have been fixed twice. I have replaced my PCV valve with an aftermarket unit from Pep Boys. That's why I wanted to know more information on what you stated above. This is the first time I've heard (read) about this so I'm concerned. Why are the aftermarket units faulty and what name brands seemed to be the ones at fault?

Update! Went to dealership today and they confirmed that I do in fact have a temp sensor. They simply said that it's probably bad. The way the mechanic described the changing of this sensor is by having it soldered on. I attempted to have my fuel temp sensor light fixed on a few occasions, to no avail. One I remember in particulator was when a shop called Vac Motorsports in PA tried. They failed but what I remember is that the shop owner 'removed' a piece from the pump assembly trying to fix it. He may have said it was the temp sensor but I can not remember. Since he had no Subaru shop manual, he was lost. I still have this small bronze looking piece in my car. It seems to have a few slits on the bottom-side of it and it's shaped like a thimble with the open end closed. The closed in part seems to come down to a small lip of sorts. On the bottom side there's a wire cut off from it. There seemed to have been a wire soldered onto the top of this 'thimble-like' looking piece also. That wire was cut as well. Could this very well be the fuel temp sensor I'm seeking to change/fix? Anyone have a part number for this piece? Nothing in my parts books make any reference to this piece and the dealership couldn't help either. They gave part#85111AC003. Subaruparts.com indicates this is some fuel metering unit. Not what I need. BTW: I can see some yahoo trying to solder this part on inside the fuel tank.

Hey Glen, I was hoping that the Pocketlogger perhaps had a glitch but the trip to motor vehicle comfirmed the Pocketlogger's reading. The code read P0183 at Motor Vehicle also. The CEL stays on constantly even after a reset. It seems a loto codes that throw a CEL takes time to come back after a reset. Not so with the P0183 code. It just stays on. Otherwise, I could get away with it if it took time come back by resetting it with the Pocketlogger while waiting in the inspection lane. Wifelady has me driving all over the place today and tomorrow so it'll be a hit and run deal with me on fiddling with the fuel tank. I'll take another look to see about the 4-6 pin and report back what configuration I have. Ah.....there's hope.

Thanks Cougar! Your input seems to be helpful. At least it's giving us a lead. I have a 1997 2.2ltr Impreza so my dillema may be slightly different than Joutbacks. I know looking at the wiring diagram for the 1997 Impreza Outaback below.... http://wac.addr.com/auto/obs/ecu1.gif http://wac.addr.com/auto/obs/ecu3.gif ,it states that there is no fuel temp sensor on my car. I checked for a Terminal #25 like the diagram suggests but there is no pin on the ECU nor the connector in terminal #25. There is something else that may be the culprit of my problem that I just thought about a few minutes ago. I have an aftermarket fuel pump in my car. I believe it was one that Rallispec installed years ago. Could an aftermarket pump's installation be relative to all of this? I've never accessed the fuel tank compartment before. I folded my rear seat down yesterday and unscrewed this section just behind the passenger side rear seat that I thought lead to the fuel tank area, to access the fuel pump. I took the cover off only to see about 3 lines to go to what appeared to be the fuel tank. I've no manuals on this car since they are $600+ so I'm being careful in this area. I'll try again. Thanks!

joutback, You are kinda quiet bud. Is everything ok? Did you get this resolved yet? I just got word that there are no fuel temp sensors on the 1997 Impreza Outback Sport. Now I REALLY have problems. Guess it's time to take it to the dealership and get plenty of grease ready. *sniffle*

I've had an aftermarket fuel pump on my car for years. Maybe some aftermarket fuel pumps do not have a fuel temperature sensor as a part of it. This would disconnect the wiring needed to be connected and cause a 'high circuit'. Even still, it should be connected somewhere on the ECU. I have a voltmeter ready to test this to be sure it's getting to the ECU but can't even do that. I'll just go by what you are saying and take a look at my fuel pump. I probably wouldn't know it was it if I saw it. I don't like fiddling around in gasoline filled areas. Welp.....we'll see.

*Bump* Where's all the 'tech-heads' at? We need you! Help.....

Just was browsing the internet trying to find more information about this code. On this site: http://www.visi.com/~rhanson/obdII_codes-full-text.htm It says this, Code: P0183 Engine Fuel Temperature Sensor A Circuit High Input Description: The comprehensive component monitor (CCM) monitors the EFT sensor circuit to the PCM for high voltage. If voltage were to exceed a calibrated limit and a calibrated amount of time during testing, the test will fail. Possible Causes: *Open or Short to power in harness* *Damaged EFT Sensor* *Improper harnes connection* *Damaged PCM* Diagnostic Aides Verify EFT-PID value to determine open or short I'm looking into this tomorrow on my car. Maybe it'll help you also. L8Rs

Holy crap! This is amazing! I just posted about the same problem here: NASIOC Fuel Temp Sensor I've had this code for YEARS. I just went through motor vehicle today and failed because of this code. Someone had mentioned checking near the ECU to be sure the voltage is getting to it like it should in an older NASIOC thread. My code reads: P0183 (Fuel Temperature Sensor A, Circuit High Input). This is what I get on my Palm Pilot Pocketlogger OBDII software when I hook up to the connector near the left leg. Resetting the ECU does nothing. The code stays up. I can make other codes come and reset the ECU and everything is cleared....as a test. So I know the resetting is working as it should. I'll be checking my ECU connector to be sure everything is cool there since I've had 2 different types of fuel controllers there in the past and the wiring may be jumbled. If you find ANY information on this joutback, please feel free to let me know. I'll be checking here throughout the night (I'm at work). :temper: Good luck!

Could you post a link to the thread or give the thread name that you are referrencing? Is it a thread at all or some documentation?

You need to be more specific on exactly what type of alcohol can be used. Don't be surprised if someone posts about pouring some Bud Lite into the gas tank. :-\

You got that right Paul! One of my favorite local dealerships was doing some repairs to my Subaru XT6. I asked them while they were at it if they could replace the gasket on my oil dipstick (the little gasket that seals the dipstick when you put it back in after checking the oil). Do you know they tried to charge me $105 in labor? You pull the dipstick out, get a screwdriver to pry the gasket off, push the new little gasket on and push the dipstick back in. They wanted to charge 1.5hrs for this. I almost screamed at the dude and I thought it was a joke. No wonder the dealership just upgraded to a new more expensive beautiful looking department. Now I see where the $$$ was coming from. Good thing I was friends with the general manager there. :madder:

I think I have one or two of these out in my shed. I'll rumage through the various SVX and WRX engines and get back to you with pricing and shipping info.

I'm getting warmer...... http://www.hawaiitoptruck.com

$500 is an absolute rip-off. I'm no mechanic by far but I attempted this a while back when I first was trying to learn about doing some of my own repairs. If you can unscrew a light bulb, you can unscrew the O2 sensor. You just have to have the proper socket and socket wrench to get to it but that's it. At any rate, if you still feel weary about it, I'd do it for half the price. To put it short, I could probably fly up to you, do your O2 sensor change in about 10-15 minutes, and fly back and I'd still make money. And I'm the guy who doesn't even change his own oil. (Now that I got a garage, that's about to change). Good luck!

What is the name of the article you read about this brat called?

What's wrong with those Peterson Fools? No website? This is all I was able to find.......... Peterson's 4 Wheel and Off-Road magazine (monthly) - Contains lots of tech articles, manufacturer news, and some trail stories. Quite a bit of coverage of extremely modified vehicles. Almost no coverage of club activities. Subscription information: 1-800-800-4BY4(4294) USA

The reference to 'EJ18' was in ignorance. I've got a lot to learn about these cars. I'm so used to referring to engines as EJ22, EJ25, etc that I referred to his engine as EJ18. Gotta remember the EA81, EA82's, EA81-T etc when talking about these engines. My apologies!

Hey DJ72, Well, projects rarely end on time or as planned but just in case.......3 weeks will be this Wednesday, 10-29-03. So how are things coming along? :-) Did you get those cams back from Paeco Industries yet?

Thanks for answering question number 2. Question one is in reference to a 1985 RX that I plan on purchasing BUT I wanted to know what his current Sensor Calc and Sensor Number setting are on his Apexi SAFC. These settings are what mostly prevented me from using the Apexi SAFC on my XT6 and I have sense taken it off (then it got stolen out of my Outback Sport :madder: ). It's good that someone installed it on their RX as a guinea pig to make things easier for the rest of us seeking this route I hope. There are a couple other settings like the type of Maf sensor but different RX's have different types of Mafs I thought I read here. Another reason I was thinking of putting the SAFC on the RX is to raise the fuel cut limit after installing higher flowing injectors. This is what I read off of an SAFC tuning site (Road Race Engineering)...... "Fuel cut is caused by the ECU seeing a large airflow value from the MAF which works out to roughly 100% duty cycle on the stock injectors. If you install 550cc injectors which are 18% bigger than the stock injectors, then adjust the AFC to compensate for the larger injectors, you won't hit fuel cut until you make up that 18% airflow buffer. *These sizes don't apply to OUR cars but the idea remains the same*........." I know a lot of you know this stuff already but some of us don't. When u said he is using the spider intake off of the XT4, was that in reference to his MAF sensor hooking up to the air filter, the piping going from the intercooler to the throttle body, the intake manifold itself or something else? Just a little confused!

This is the internet folks. We need to post linkies to these thingies. The Rusterminator RustStop The Electro-Shield Since our old scoobies are rust buckets, I'm surprised I haven't read about this before, or at least more of it. Get'em while they are hot!

Congrats pierman2! You big mountain climbin', wood choppin, hairy chested, killin' buffalo and lions with his bare hands, having a son at 50 yrs old guy you. I disagree with that one. If you have a head full of hair, expect hair loss within the next two years. If you have gray hair, you'll be bald by the time your kid reaches 8yrs old. Dem lil' rugrats are a handful.

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Can an 'upgraded' cam that moves the powerband slightly higher in the rpm range be offsetted by raising your compression ratio slightly to gain back the low end? Restricting your exhaust a little further would be out of the question since you'd be robbing the power that you've gained with the cam in the first place.