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my high beams are causing me nightmares
Cougar replied to Mariposa's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
You are correct in your thinking they way things work. Until the ground is made and current flows, the lead from the lights will stay high since the circuit is open. The H-beam indicator does run to the same ground but the two points have separated somewhere. The indicator light is tied to the working side of the break in the circuit. My guess is the break is at the 8 pin connector. I think the 8 pin connector I was refering to is different than the one you are looking at. The one that I am talking about should be near the firewall on the far left side of the dash. -
Glad to hear that you got it fixed. I would have to wonder why the pump wasn't turning if it was getting voltage to it. You may want to replace it anyways if you are sure that there isn't any other place that could be a problem with the voltage getting to the pump. If the pump has never been replaced you got a good amount of service out of that one.
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I agree with those that suggest the alternator as the problem but before you replace it I recommend you first verify it is the source of the trouble. There may be a loose wire to it or something simple like that. If you do replace the alternator it would also be wise to have the battery load tested to see what condition it is in. It may help save you further trouble later on down the road.
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Intermitent 12Volts to the Coil ?? Need advice
Cougar replied to Petersubaru's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I forgot about the carb on my first post but my info shows the ECU for a carb model also. Check the fusible links for a loose connection. That may be where the voltage is dropping at. -
Intermitent 12Volts to the Coil ?? Need advice
Cougar replied to Petersubaru's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
The rev sensor is the control box for the pump. You should be able to see the b/w and blu/r wires running to it. Edit: Checking my info again it looks like the b/w power wire also runs to 2 connections on the ECU along with one of the check connectors. -
Intermitent 12Volts to the Coil ?? Need advice
Cougar replied to Petersubaru's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
My info shows that fuse #11 ties to the coil and pump via a blk/wht wire. The b/w wire also ties to the rev sensor and then the feed to the pump is on a blu/red wire. The problem may be within the rev sensor. You could try running fused power to each of the areas, one at a time, using about a 5 amp fuse and see if blows on one particular circuit. -
my high beams are causing me nightmares
Cougar replied to Mariposa's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Keep up the good work on learning about the wiring system Mariposa. You will be able to fix things pretty quickly after getting a little familiar with things in the electrical world. The bad ground connection may be in the light switch or in a connector to the lights. One way to eliminate the light switch is to see if the high beams work in the flash position, which is the other switch position for the high beams. If the highs work in the flash position then the switch is at fault since the two positions share the same path to the lights. If the lights still don't work then the trouble is a wire connection between the switch and the lights. The red/wht wire that Gloyale mentioned is the return path (ground) for the high beams. Until there is a current flow in the circuit, there will be 12 volts floating on that wire. When the circuit is closed by the switch and it makes the ground connection, current will flow and the voltage will then be across the light filament, or load, in this case. This may sound a little strange right now to you but don't be too concerned. You will know later on as you tinker in the strange science of electrons and understand Ohm's Law. I commend you on your willingness to try and understand. Getting a book that covers DC theory will help you a lot in leaning about it. Edit: My info shows that the r/w wire ties to a 8 pin connector that is on the far left side under the dash. Where all the other wires come through. If you can find it you may be able to just unplug the connector and replug it back together to fix this problem. -
You are correct Msteel. I have repaired some ECUs that had some problems in the analog area.
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I don't know why the fuse didn't blow out unless it is over rated for the circuit it is supposed to protect. I would guess it should be rated for about 15 amps. You can replace the harness or try repairing the damaged areas by splicing in new sections of wire to replace the bad spots. If you do that I recommend you solder the connections and carefully tape the bare spots or use heat shrink tubing to cover them. Use a wire gauge at least as big as the original size wire.
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Here is a couple more thoughts. Since the engine is always dying at a certain time it would seem unlikely to me that this problem is due to a faulty relay but I won't rule it out totally. It seems to me that the ECU is shutting things down for some reason. Another relay to check out is the main relay. Make sure power is getting to ECU pins 1 and 2 when the trouble occurs. The same power connection goes to the injectors also so maybe this relay is causing the trouble. Since there is a code being set, the problem may be related to it. Even though you disconnected the lead, it may need to see a voltage signal to make things work correctly. The code description is: P1722 Subaru - Automatic Transmission Diagnosis Circuit High Input While I am not sure what this signal does, it may cause the ECU to shut the engine down. Looking at the engine schematic I noticed that there is a connection from the TPS to the transmission area. The wiper of the TPS goes to the system somewhere so maybe this is related to the trouble.
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Since the engine is being fuel starved somehow it must be the injector circuit is causing this or the fuel pressure is being cut off somehow. Check the power going to the injectors and make sure it isn't being cut out somehow. Using an analog meter may help to check that. You may need a scope also to see if the pulse width of the signal is decreasing. You may need to check the fuel pressure using a gauge.