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Everything posted by turboguzzi
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no DIY'ing of LPG install round here in italy..... specially since the car is taken for emissions testing after the installation. With sequential injection of the LPG too, there shouldnt be an explosion danger indeed, so I guess its more dangerous with a carb'd car? my car runs a romano kit: http://www.romanoautogas.it/?go=home&lang=English
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make two 3mm-4mm holes on the flat areas of the nut, it will weaken it considerably and make it split when you put torque on it i have often the same problem on the big clutch hub retaining nuts in motorcycle engines and its a relatively clean way to solve this the CV kits come with a new nut anyway
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havent checked where the tube passes not doing too much dirt roads as much as i did with my 1st gen, so not that worried, but sure its worth checking i can already see that milleage is very related to outside temp just like the system manual said, this weekend was 4-5 celsius colder than last and milleage improved quite a bit
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the only control/dial added is this little box next to the hand brake line with 5 leds on the top tells me tank fill level, G led means system is on LPG pump icon means its on petrol little square white button in center lets me switch between LPG and petrol, but car runs on LPG as default, switches to gas automatically if LPG runs out, so far so good...
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well, the Leg has been slowly losing its refrigerant fill over 5 months or so. asked an ex-alfa romeo mechanic friend where is the place that most likely leaks and he said check the accumulator first... bingo! the top of the accumulator/drier is indeed all oily from losing the gas that has oil mixed into it. OK, but where is it leaking from? is this the accumulator itself that leaks, the glass sight seal, the electrical sending unit (behind left tube in pic) or are those the o-rings for the pipes? Friend was never into a/c fixing so couldn't give me more info accumulators/driers are supposed to be cheap but why change something if its good? will most likely de-pressurize the system and check but any info on the subject could be useful, Grazie mille
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well, back from the weekend trip and honestly, car goes just as well with the LPG in terms of pull, even if i was definitely not trying too hard with GF and her mother aboard, just doing highway droning at 120kmh/75 mph most of the time well, it took exactly two refills of the LPG tank to get the exact 720 km range of one gasoline tankful, so quite easy to do the math of the savings: one tankful / 60L of petrol is circa 100-105 euro in italy two tankfulls of LPG have cost 60 euro so in terms of km/L or mpg, the LPG gives 40% savings. at 40 euro savings per tank, it will take the equivalent of 40 tanks to get my investment back, that is exactly 28,000 km, that would be less than a year and a half at the rate i pack on my miles with more savings due to reduced road tax here for "clean cars". With much cheaper gas prices of the USA guess it will take quite a bit longer to amortize the investment in the system. But in Europe at least, sounds like a win-win situation to me just sorry i didnt do it sooner!
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today i am driving with girlfriend + mother in law : to Venezia, including some touring in the Colli Euganei area near Padova, it will be a a 500 mile round trip from milano, so will be the first chance to do some fill to fill runs. there is an italian forum where people report they milleage with petrol vs. LPG and the figures differ by very little, less than 10% but will now better after this weekend. my car has been very consistent delivering 28-29 mpg since i bought it, kist like my previos Gen 1 for the 7 years i owned it have a good WE TG
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as filling stations across countries in europe have different fittings to hook to the car, i was given some adapters, the bayonet one should work in Holland according to what one of our members says. doing a "full" and just paying one third of what i paid with petrol sure feels nice already, will report on the actual figures mpg figures, even if its hard to relate LPG gallons to petrol gallons, so it will be more mpd (miles per dollar) or kpe (kilometers per euro) sort of thing
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well, after 10 moths of ownership, i took the plunge and fitted an LPG system to my second gen SW. and quite plunge it was as the system cost was a quite a bit more than the purchase cost of the car, 1600 euro, around 2000 $. Sounds steep, but if i had fitted it when i bought the car 13K miles ago, it would have payed for itself already with the current petrol prices round here. gas bottle takes the place of the spare wheel and the system is digitally controlled with a separate ECU that interfaces the stock ECU. Essentially the car is now bi-fuel, will switch to petrol when the LPG runs out automatically. The filling port was put under the normal fuel door, at the station i need to screw the silver adapter to fill.