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UPDATE - UPDATE !!!! Well, got up this morning filled the radiator with water. Started it up. It sounded rougher than it ever has at idle.!! WTF?? I noticed same amount of white smoke out the tail pipe (which has never been alot really). So, I took it out on the road, drove about 15 miles. Once I got running, engine was smooth running (like usual). White smoke gone (as usual) But it did start getting hot as usual, and when I stopped, heard the coolant bubbling in the overfill tank (as usual). So, all in all, nothing has really changed. I also opened the overfill while the water was bubbling in there, stuck my finger inside, water was cold as ice? hmmm....... Except that my idle is rough as hell. I am thinking plugs due to the Block seal. But who knows. I will get plugs replaced and hoipefully my idle will be smooth again. If not, this car is going to melt like the witch in wizord of Oz.. "I/m Melting, I'm Melting"........ Btw - my opinion on the block seal, is that it isnt that bad, I didnt see much of the reddish stuff drain out of the rad. I can still hear water running through my heater core. Have heat for about 20 seconds, then blows cold (like before). so all in all, I would try it again. and still might.......
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OHHHHHHH, Jesus H. CHRIST !!!!!!!! I just boiled the old thermostat to see if it was opening up. Oh HELL YES it was. Now, I dont know what temperature, but it was boiling rapidly for 5 minutes. I then saw it open, I took it out, and a few seconds, and it closes. I turned off burner, and stuck it back (water still boiling) and it really didn't open. Of course, it could be sticky, or it is taking 300' degrees before it opens. Anyway, I don't like the looks of this at all. I am thinking my new thermo won't solve a F$%#g thing:(
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NEW Thermostat installed and ready.!!!! just gotta wait to dry. I ALMOST did not put one in, just to see if it would overheat. If this doesnt fix it, I am pushing this thing of a cliff, Or someone here can buy it at the highest bid. Starting at $50. Body is rust free, interior brand new looking., new tires, WAIT, before I get into all that, let me see if this works.
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UPDATE - UPDATE. So, I mixed the KW with 3 quarts of hot water. (making about a gallon of mixture) I garden hosed my heater core hoses, all is ready to go. I pour about less than HALF a gallon into my radiator. It wont take anymore. I start the car immediatly and intend on having it idle for 30 minutes like the directions ask. I then notice, WTF???? The radiator is only taking half of gallon? That doesnt sound right. So, while my car is idling with this snakeoil, I call the manufacturer of the rad (CSF). I didn't notice with all my flush , how much water was going in. (remember, it was the garden hose). But in my others cars, usually gallon and a half or so it seemed. Well the rep says "Hmmmm, that doesn't sound right". He says it's my thermostat sticking, backing the fluid up in my overfill !!!! WTF??? So, I thank him, run out to the car, switch it off. I wait 10 minutes to cool down, and strat flushing out the snakeoil like crazy. It really isnt bad looking , just a reddish watery type liquid, nothing thick, So, the car idled about 8 -10 minutes with thisa stuff in it. I believe I got it all out. Soooooo, I then drain, flush with water. I remove the thermostat. It looks to be like the old one I had. And then a funny thing hits me. I remember my car would get real hot, but then my temp would go back down to normal, and be fine. Must be this thermostat, that finally seized shut. $%$!! I hope this car pulls through. So, I just thought I could tighten the Thermo housing back down (without a gasket) just to make it the Parts store for a new thermo. Well, you know what happened don't you , LOL Yep, water squirted right out of the gap. So, I turned it off, and someone is on there way to take me. I Hope to Hell this is it. I want to bang my head on the wall , since I almost changed it anyway to see if it was it. Well, I will keep you updated. I will install today and report back. fj401 - Thanks for your help and stories. I am going to bring this $50 beast back to a $1000 CAR!!!
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I think I am right behind you Dragon. !!!!! My subie has brought on more stress than my last 5 girlfriends COMBINED.!!!! Read my "OK, I've got the Engine Seal Block" thread, LMAO!!! One guy just said my car is worth $50 Yea, I am going crazy !! It drive me to drinking..
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WTF???????? "You said yourself, your getting exhaust in your coolant. That means the leak is moving the wrong direction for a 'fix in a bottle' to work. If you were getting coolant in your exhaust, there might be a prayer for a short lived fix." That makes sense.........$^$^^%$#!!!! IS This true? So, why is it blowing the wrong way? Dammit!!! Is it a blown head? cracked? WTF?? And true, It only smokes (white) when I start it, then goes away. So, given the symptoms, where is this leak? I can put JB weld on it. I was just about to go out and put in the KW , and just came to check here first, thanks!!!!!
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Well, I have re-flushed and re-flushed, and re-flushed. It only took about 45 minutes to re-flush it 3 times, no big hassle. I just want to make sure that ALL anti-freeze is out of the system. The K&W Block seal will not work if it mixes with it, so I am making sure. Monte - don't know your logic there, I figure air/fluids pass through the least resistance, which this product will be passing through , filling up the gap/crack over each revolution of the motor. (That;s what the bottle says anyway:brow: ). So, the only $ I have spent so far is : Prestone super flush - $4.95 (or something close to that). K&W Block Seal - $7.99 - Autozone Antifreeze - $8.99 - Peak antifreeze I put in the flush, ran the car for 10-20 minutes, even ran to the store in it. Came back drained it out. (let it cool down first):-p Filled with hose water. I also ran the hose in there without the drain plug for about 4 minutes to make sure it ran clear water. Replaced drain plug, filled with hose water. Let car run idled for about 5 minutes. Let cool down. Drained radiator again. Replaced plug, filled with hose water. Ran for 5 more minutes. Let cool down. And drain again. Now, I am ready to put in the Block Sealer. (hopefully all the antifreeze is out). Now, that may seem like alot, but not really. The slowest part is waiting the 10 -15 minutes to let it cool down, LOL! But I am at the house and do other things around the house while I wait, so no biggie. Now, I am also going to undo my 2 hoses going to my heater core, and garden hose those one final time before I add KW - (KW is what I will use from now on instead of typing out block seal). That will only take a few minutes, As I have done this before , so my hoses will slid off pretty easy this time. So here are my symptoms, And I will post here my ONGOING results from this "miracle in a bottle". 1) I have NO heat. - sometimes lukewarm, going to cold. 2) Taking off radiator cap, and pressing gas, Antifreeze shoots up 4 inches out of mouth. 3) Inspecting radiator, I see exaust fumes in there. 4) While idle, everything appears fine, no -overheating, but once I drive, Motor creates pressure, And I guess the crack/leak opens up, resulting in Overheat, pushing air into my cooling system, which pushes antifreeze into my overfull tank, making it bubble. This bubbling can be confused as boiling, but it isnt hot, is just air passing through. I hope this stuff takes care of all this. I know someone might say this will plug the heater core, it may, I don't care about heat right now. Spring is almost here. But I have a feeling, I will get heat. (just a hope). So, is everyone ready for this? I will be adding KW within the 1-2 hour, I will need to idle the car for 20 minutes. After that, drain, flush with water, and let it sit for 24-36 hours. Then I will probably flush with hose water again. Then fill her with 50/50 and take her for a ride. WISH ME LUCK PLEASE.!!!
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What's so heart breaking is, I dumped so much $$$ into this thing in the past 4 months. And I was reflecting on the time that my car overheated, and I thought that it had survived it. :-\ And it was all over a .05 plastic plug that blew out the side of the radiator. But now that i remember, it has been over-heating for a few months now. I am 99.9% sure its a cracked head/blown gasket. It is a small leak right now. Due to not alot of smoke, oil in coolant, etc... So, I am going to use this stuff. I HATE the idea of doing this to my engine, but I just cant take another hit $$ wise. I doubt it will work due to antifreeze PROBABLY still in the block somehow, even though I have flushed and re-filled twice. I will follow the directions perfectly and let everyone know. Well, tomorrow , I might ask this mechanic (a friend of a friend) if i were to help him, maybe I could do this cheaper. Somehow , I doubt it. If i had a place to do it, I would give it a go. I love digging into engines. it's putting them back that's the problem. Thanks so far for ALL the suggestions !!!!!!!
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OK, I have K&W Block Seal in my hands. This morning, went out, took the radiator cap off car. Hood opened, I could see the radiator mouth. I had plenty of 50/50 in it. I cranked it up. Antifreeze spuges up out of radiator. I juice the motor each time, and more Antifreeze shouts out of the top. I get out to inspect, I see exaust fumes in the radiator. I figure it is definetly a crack head/leak somewhere. Well, if you think I am spending $400 - $1300 to get it fixed, juu crazy !! LOL!:-p It was suggested on one of my other posts, that K&W makes a great liquid head gasket. And he had used it on numerous Subies for the blown head gaskets, leaks, etc... with great results. Even the guy at Auto-Zone said he had used it on a numbeer of vehicles with great success. SO, I just wanted to ask everyone who has USED this stuff if they had good results too. And how long do you think it will last? I will follow the directions to a "T" , I know it's important. Please chime in !!!!!!! I am ready to do this in the next few hours !! BTW- I did a search and found nothing.!!
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1986 thermostat.....
LuckyPistol replied to LuckyPistol's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Block sealer? Does this really work? -
I am at my wits end with my cooling system..... I have a new Water Pump, new fan clutch. The radiator has been replaced with a new one. (not sure how long ago.) new thermostat. Bought a new radiator cap. Now, my temp gauge is getting very close to the red. Each time I get in it in the morning, I will drive about 2-4 miles and then it gets hot. ALSO, the overfill tank is bubbling. I have searched and read alot of posts about bubbling, and it seems to be Head gaskets. But I dont think it is. So, here are my questions.. 1) I want to try and maybe just take out the thermostat and see if it is the culprit. Now, some said to me, that if I do this, my mileage will suck (How much?) I get about 24 mpg now. So a little less wont hurt if it stops this overheating. What if this does not stop the overheating? 2) I took off the hoses going to my Heater core. Used the garden hose to clean it out. Seemed like my heater core was dribbling out the water on the other end, just a stream really. So, I was thinking...... Maybe the water isnt circulating fast enough through the heater core, making the Antifreeze spill over into the overfill. Does anyone know if this sounds like a good idea? I have read a few posts about this, but no one addressed the overheating part. Well, Please HELP ME, thanks !!!!
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1986 thermostat.....
LuckyPistol replied to LuckyPistol's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Sorry about my last response, I was drinking last night. LOL. Oh, my head hurts. Well, before you can repair "cracked valves" or a "head gasket", I need to find out WHAT has caused it and repair it, Or I will end up with the same problem? no? So I have a few questions. 1) Would it do any good to bypass the heater core? I mean could that be what is causing the overheating? 2) How can I check for cracked valves? And what is the procedure for the repair? And if I cant do it, what would be a good price for someone to do it. 3) If I run the car without a "Thermostat" , and my head/valves are shot, WILL the car STILL overheat - yes or no. Finally, I am not concerned about having any heat in this car. I just want this car to last maybe another year if possible. I also Do NOT want to spend any money on it anymore. I am at my wits end with this thing. If a block sealer is what I might do, Which one would you recommend? Thanks for everyones Help.!! -
1986 thermostat.....
LuckyPistol replied to LuckyPistol's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
You son of a ***************..... Please dont tell me its fruitless........ I WILL NOT BELIEVE ITS A HEAD GASKET. -
LOL, are you drinking again Cabooo? Anyway, I used to work in detailing, and just pick up some ENGINE clearcoat at the parts store. Also, pick up some ENGINE black color. WITH the car engine COOLED, spray away. First with the black (on all hoses). And anything else you want black,. Let that dry for a few minutes, and then go over EVERYTHING with Clear-coat, and you will have a new looking engine.!! Hope that helps.!!! Oh - make sure you clean as much of your engine first.!!