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SOA just paid to reseal the oil pan on my 08 under warranty. Worth a shot.

2005 are prone to an external oil leak. Look at the lower end to see if this has developed. Some say just drive it and check the oil. It adds about 1000-1300 to your hg job at a shop as I recall. Otherwise, recommended in addition to the tb and wp are the rollers, gear, and tensioner. These parts can be purchased as a complete kit for for just about what you'd pay for the tb and wp at the dealer. Labor $ is just about the same. I recently posted a youtube video of a shop doing the full hg etc. repair on an Impreza.

Came across the following youtube video for 06-07 Imprezza replacement of timing belt, tensioner, water pump and rollers. Done in under 1 hour. I've never tried this myself so please Wiki this thing if anything needs correcting or if applicable to other models/years. Moderators please relocate if this belongs someplace else.

http://www.fillernecksupply.com/servlet/the-1009/42066FA140-1999-99-2000/Detail This is for 98 Legacy. References an emission valve (not included). Not sure what part was ordered but a trip to dealer with VIN will assure the correct part is in hand.

Well, I now have heard the same sounds on my wife's 05 OB (subject of this post), my daughter's 05 Legacy and my 08 OB. I have to assume that this cold start/stop sound is normal. I am bringing it in for a free (Lifetime) oil change and will ask the tech to identify the sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAYcT4uhytg&feature=youtu.be :popcorn:Grab your popcorn and head on over. The sounds aren't produced as clearly as I had hoped but what I am referring to is the final 2 coughs of each start/stop cycle recorded. As stated earlier, it doesn't make the sounds once the car is completely warmed up.

05 Outback. 120k miles. Auto. I guess I've never been under the hood when I turned the ignition off so I wasn't sure what "normal" was. After the car was driven for a while, it didn't make the "cough cough" when I turned the key off. I drove it to a buddy who is a Lexus service manager and after listening to the non-sound first questioned my sanity then questioned whether the smell was noticeable since I was starting and stopping the engine while in the garage (yes door was open). Anyway, I checked my 08 Outback and it makes something of a similar "cough." It seems to be coming from the passenger front side on both cars. They are garaged together. Perhaps the cough is contagious. I'll try to do an audio capture tomorrow and post.

Wife said there was a grinding noise today when she started the car so she turned it off and waited. When I start the car, I don't hear a grinding sound but after I shut the car off, I can hear a cough cough sound like a little backfire or valve opening/closing from around the area of passenger side of engine and there is a chemical smell that I can't identify?? Any thoughts appreciated.

Need to check for codes again. Not sure why connector not working but as soon as a code is thrown on my 05 Outback, check engine light comes on and cruise is disabled (light blinking). My code is unrelated to cruise. Usually P0420 catalytic converter blah blah blah.

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Sent you a pm. I'm near you and have some spark plug cheaters that might eliminate the p0420. You're on your own for the rest.

Here in CT they don't tailpipe sniff but just read the OBDII and away you go. If this EJ22 is readable via OBDII, what are the codes?

GD, I come here for advice and opinions and yours are among those I've come to respect. Just kicking myself for not looking underneath 3K miles ago.:banghead::banghead: Dadgummit!@#$^&

I think y'all may have missed the point that this is a dealer only proposition with some help from SOA. I didn't catch this before the 80K warranty ran out so shame on me. Effectively, my out of pocket $300 cost will about equal what I would have to pay for a TB job. The rest of the $ from SOA would cover the HG work. All them extra parts your tossin' in will add up pretty darn quick, especially at dealer prices. Just saying... BTW, the tech does the HGs in the car all the time. Says he just tilts the engine.

I've got the HG oil leak external on the 05 Legacy. What else would you do besides changing the timing belt while in the neighborhood. This is going to be a dealer warranty expedition so no cheap parts from ebay etc.

Just had my 08 OB in to check a leak before my 60k warranty expired and was told by tech that it was the oil pan that was the source of the leak. I guess I will have to check this more closely myself.

This is the kind of thing you run into with high mileage cars. Welcome to the site. Let the dealer sort it out if it continues. I wouldn't be happy if it really is 5-6 seconds. On my 05 with 120K miles, it's less than 5-6 cranks and it's running.

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=66882&highlight=turn+smoke+loyale Check out post #2 by General Disorder. This uphill right turn stumbling related to PCV may be your issue.

Can you post a picture or two?

Wrong size plug ++

3" of rain is a good opportunity for some differential diagnosis. Cover the sunroofs with plastic (garbage bags etc) and duct tape the edges. If you are wet tomorrow, then it is either the windshield seal or the drain from the cowling area below the windshield. BTW, does it ever get wet simply by running the AC or actually, the same if you run the defroster which may coincide with when it is raining? If that is the case, perhaps the drain line from that unit has come detached from the AC unit under the dash.

Actually, at this point, the oil is settling on the cross member so none is even appearing on my garage floor. The oil mixing with coolant that GG describes as a rarity is somewhat comforting. So what years did/will SOA HG be considered solid? My 08 at 60K is dry but as I said, both 05s (105K and 82K) are weeping. The discussion and link referenced damage to cats (I have an intermittent P0420 on my 105K 05) from oil burning etc. That info is all over the board as well. The post did verify that the cheaters don't work on 05+. But that's another story.

Found the following in a link on the NASIOC site relating to 05+ and potential fouling of cats: "Your model year has a problem where it starts to leak very early from the oil return galleries on the bottom of the heads. Make no mistake: it IS a headgasket leak and you DO need to do something about it. You'll get no further warning before it converts to a much more serious oil-to-coolant leak." BOTH of my 05's have the telltale oil leak at the driver's side! My passenger cat is in P0420 mode off and on. Anybody tracking these leaks and ultimate failure rates?

Thanks for the link but even more now to worry about with MY05 "Your model year has a problem where it starts to leak very early from the oil return galleries on the bottom of the heads. Make no mistake: it IS a headgasket leak and you DO need to do somehting about it. You'll get no further warning before it converts to a much more serious oil-to-coolant leak." BOTH of my 05's have the telltale oil leak at the driver's side! Anybody tracking these leaks and failure rates? May have to start a new thread.

Have a "feeling" it's an oil leak. I hope, I hope, I hope! Just for reassurance, I checked the wife's 05 OB and it has the same "leak" as my daughter's 05 legacy. I prefer consistency...