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Information about GL-10 Turbos?
scoobydube replied to Mr_man10gt's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
In the 86 gl10 turbo wagons, the distributor electronics have a limited lifespan, which is considerably shorter than the lifespan of the remainder of the vehicle. There are a lot of other electrical issues that can keep it from starting, and put it in junk yards. The new felpro head gaskets can keep the head gaskets from blowing and are a must have. I have 475,000 miles on mine and still can keep it running, since all of the things that go wrong, have gone wrong before. It still looks new since I keep it garaged. The Subaru dealer is just waiting to get his hands on it so he can take it out of commission. The rear brake calipers are also extremely hard to find so I hope you don't have bad ones. My brake master cylinder finally went bad the other day. The digital instrument cluster will have issues with the gear at the speedometer cable connector at this mileage. Coils will also go bad. The exhaust cross pipe develops cracks and rattles that can be resolved by removing the heat shield at the turbo end and rewelding on the outside of the pipe at the crack. There appears to be 3 or 4 different diameters used for that pipe, at the turbo end. The bigger the better. What ever you do, don't let a dealer near the vehicle, because they want to sell you a new one. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I have the same 4 pin Hitachi distributor that you show in your photo. I used a 2 1/2" diameter exhaust pipe that starts at the first catalytic converter. The 2nd catalytic converter is gone. It passes DEQ with flying colors, providing it is in tune and the timing belts are adjusted properly. I had 2 used distributors go bad in one week, just last week. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
You are correct in that the Nippondenso distributor was used in the 86 XT MPFI. There is a long list of electrical issues with my GL10, that can keep it from running properly and sends them to the junk yard. They are A. coil goes bad B. the hot wire coming off the back of the alternator gets hard, and eventually breaks but makes the engine run poorly in the process before it breaks. C. the engine ground wire gets hot, get hard, and looses it's ability to conduct electricity efficiently, resulting in very poor engine performance as in the engine won't run well with the headlights on. This starts at around 150,000 miles. D. the wire that comes off the bottom of the positive battery terminal connector and leads to the fusible link box, gets hot, gets hard and loses its ability to conduct electricity. E. the gismo that attaches to the coil with a single wire and is also attached to the body at the coil mounting plate, that cuts down static on the radio, can go out completely and the engine will not start. F. the Hitachi distributors do not last long enough and may cause the engine to run rough before they go out completely. Or they may just go out all of a sudden. G. the battery terminals can get corroded. H. the distributor cap can crack for no apparently reason. I. the terminals inside of the distributor cap get corroded and cause poor performance. J. the spark plug wires get rusty and/or can have a total failure at the connector at the spark plug. K. the spark plugs can go out separately and they all should be replaced at no more than 25,000 miles. L. the timing belt on one sides can jump a tooth on the timing belt pulley. This is caused by the tension pulleys not be adjusted properly. M. the timing belts can break Obviously, every single one of the above problems happened to my GL10 Turbo and I found the cause. Which is why it now has 476,000 miles and runs better than the day it came off the dealers lot, because I installed a larger diameter exhaust system, updated cylinder head gaskets, exhaust cross pipe with the rattle flashing removed, a larger diameter exhaust cross pipe at the turbo and an LSD rear differential. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
In this photo, the timing indicator is pointing at the flywheel BTDC marks, not the 3 tick marks that are used for setting both the timing belt pulleys and installing the distributor. So the rotor position shown is completely irrelevant in a discussion based on the 3 tick marks. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
You are correct. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Forget my comment about whether it is a genuine Subaru service manual. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
This photo appears to be for an 87 model year. It does not appear to be a Subaru service manual. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
The distributor that you have in your photos, appears to be for an 85-86 turbo GL10 because it has 4 pins to attach the wires. It should say 22100AA221 on the body of the distributor. In my experience, all distributor extraction and reinstalling, should be done with the flywheel tick mark indicator, centered on the middle of the three ticks on the flywheel. The photo of your distributor does not appear to have the flywheel set in that position so it is not easy to compare the rotor position with anything else. However, with the 12 o'clock position being towards the rear of the car, you can see on your distributor, the top of a screw at the 5 o'clock position. If you car is a turbo, then the rotor should point almost exactly toward the 5 o'clock screw head, when the the distributor is installed AND with the distributor base screws that ultimately adjust the timing, centered in the wear marks at the base attachment of the distributor. Which the base screws appear to be set in the wear marks in your photo. I have used 86 XT turbo distributors in my GL10. It is exactly the same as in the GL10 turbo wagon. -
EA82 timing driving me crazy
scoobydube replied to The Cycle Guy's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Timing is usually set with the RPM around 700. Like others have said, that is not an 86 distributor. 86 distributors may only last 50,000 miles. They don't make them anymore. With the timing tick indicator pointing at the center tick mark of the 3 tick mark grouping on the flywheel, the turbo disty rotor should point to about the 5 o'clock position, and be almost directly on top of the screw in the distributor, with the screws that hold the distributor to the engine in the center of their wear marks, if it was an 86 turbo XT. The firing order may be wrong. 1-3-2-4 Front right is #1, Rear right is #3, Front left is #2, Rear left is #4. 86 specs are 6 degrees at 700 rpm for MPFI non-turbo MT. For a turbo, it is 25 degrees BTDC at 700 rpm. -
1986 Subaru GL Flapping Noise. Struts?
scoobydube replied to 3crows's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Removed the front wheels one at a time, and check the tightness of the bolts that hold the disc brake disc on. If that doesn't help then jack up both sides of the front of the car so both front wheels are off the ground and the rear wheels are tightly blocked in place. With the tranny in 2WD, then engage the front wheels in whatever gear you have been hearing the problem. Then have someone else listen for where your sound is coming from. Or you could have someone else sit in the drivers seat and be ready to apply brakes or to give is some gas to try and pinpoint the issue. -
Loss of power after a major backfire EA82
scoobydube replied to Bababou's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I had a backfire of sorts once and the timing belt slipped a tooth. And the engine then did not run well. -
Bad things: Installed Autozone front CV axles on my 4wd 86 GL10 with 465,000 miles. Autozone sells you cheap Made in China CV joints without telling you. O'Reilly sells a much higher grade and they are still purring. The other thing was I bought hydraulic lifters from Rock Auto and half of them were already shot. They hand picked the damaged NOS lifters and sent me them. Which I thought was real considerate of them, and wasted a lot of my time. Good things: On my GL10 exhaust manifold, I removed the heat shield between the passenger side exhaust port and the turbo flange. This enabled me to get rid of the standard exhaust death rattle, and it allowed me to have the standard crack at the turbo flange, welded all around on both the outside and inside. So it won't crack again. Killed two birds with one stone. Subaru does not make gl10 exhaust manifolds anymore so save your old cracked rattlely ones and repair them.
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Loss of power after a major backfire EA82
scoobydube replied to Bababou's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Most GL10's have a turbo, which you did not mention in your post. You may have blown out a hole in the exhaust manifold, or caused a crack someplace that then reduces the velocity of the exhaust gases pushing on the turbo fan blades. Which may then put the turbo mostly out of commission. GL10 engines don't work well with a turbo that is not fully operational. You might be able to look at the dash and read the indicator of when the turbo supposedly adds power, and notice that it does not indicate that it is adding power. -
What to replace when rebuilding
scoobydube replied to Metalman1's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Since you probably have the engine out of the car, I would also replace the water pump, all timing belt idlers and timing belts. Because they are a pain to change them out once the engine is back in the car.