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Michael. Thanks for the response. I'd like to make a tube frame buggy using a brat or gl hatchback as the base vehicle. I'm way into Land Rovers and have done several conversions,however, I'd like to have a smaller lighter vehicle more like a Polaris RZR, which are way too expensive. I'd like some advice on what exact model and spec to look for you my donor. I look forward to talking with you. thanks, Steven 503-781-3377