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do your homework, check the forums, pretty much everyone will tell you NGK copper core plugs - including your owners manual. this is from the 2002 Forester owners manual (i used to own one)... Dont see Denso Platinum listed here... and honestly, i would not use the Champions either.. not on a Subaru.
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yeah, sometimes it is a challenge, but if you just throw parts at it without actually testing those parts before replacing, that is not ideal and yes, one thing at a time for sure. '99 2.2 is not all that complicated, really.. and there are usually only a couple of things that would cause a misfire. coils on these cars dont fail all that often, and when they do, it is usually pretty obvious. Also quite typical to be worse when the weather is damp... I have a very short video clip showing what a bad coil does here: bad wires (typically aftermarket) will do something similar, but sometimes harder to see, so checking things out after dark can often help. If it is bad enough, it can often be seen in full daylight, like the bad coil above.. but sometimes it is not that bad, or in a difficult to see spot.
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100% what was said above.... these cars are very fussy about plugs and wires. NGK basic copper core plugs at the proper gap are all it needs, anything else is a waste of your money. Wires should be either OEM or NGK only... again, anything else is a waste of your money and will fail prematurely. replacing stuff randomly is bad practice.. you need to figure out what the problem actually is before throwing parts at it.
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Agree with azdave... i have no desire to own a new model... just one minor difference between he and I - I have never paid more than $2500 for one, LOL (usually less than 2k) last time I had a car payment was in 1990-91 - and in the middle of a divorce the car got repo-ed.. I swore I would never do it again, and I haven't. And if they would actually teach driving skills in drivers ed, we wouldn't need all of that fancy crap they insist on putting in new cars. my partner has a 2017 Mazda CX5 - has a lot of that fancy lane assist, auto braking stuff - i have driven the thing exactly once, and hated it.
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it has been said many times over... NGK copper core plugs - you do NOT need the fancy iridium, platinum, or anything else.. just plain old copper cores set to the correct gap NGK or OEM wires ONLY - anything else is a waste of time and money. Sure, they might work for a little while, but they WILL fail prematurely
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you do not run the engine to read codes... that is for clearing/resetting to read - connectors connected, key on, engine OFF if memory serves... green connectors will cycle all the solenoids & fans to check that all are functioning correctly. Black ones are for reading the stored codes, again, with key ON, engine OFF
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correlation does not imply causation. i doubt very much that the fuel change caused the problem (unless the fuel was bad for some reason), it just happened to be coincidental. 24 yr old wires are more likely the culprit. Yes, the OE wires do tend to last a long time, but good grief, even they will fail eventually, Replacements should be either new OE or NGK ONLY. Anything else is a waste of your time, effort and money.