Dr. RX

Thanks for all the help guys, and yes, even the teacher need to be taught sometimes. A side note about the starter, I checked will a dealer about a new one, it's around $100, but he didn't have one in stock. This starters fit every automatic Subaru EA82 and EJ22, so there are a lot of cars out there with these starter, the guy at the dealer checked his sale history on this starter, and he has NEVER sold one. These starters are rugged, the standards starters are different.

For which model year did you get that explaination of the code from, it makes a difference. It sounds like a code for an EJ series engine. My second post here states what it is for the car in question. Thanks for the effort though.

Well, I still haven't figured it out, but now it starts just fine. I removed the bolt from the starter that holds the ground, looked at the nut, washer, bolt and the contact points on the starter and tranny, all were clean and showed no sign of any build up, I bolted it back together, and gave it a try. Guess what, that same damn thing, clicking, then slow spinning of the engine that gets progressively faster, but never fast enough. So now I'm getting really pissed, I start talking to the wife about getting another Subaru, to which she agrees (that's the first miracle), so I say I'll give it one more try. Well by now you've probably guess it, that damn thing starts right up, so I shut it down, try it again, bang, it starts no problem. I did that at least 10 time in the next half hour, each time it started right away. Go figure, I'm still scratching my head.

Some additional info that I forgot, it does start occasionally. Also the battery is less then 6 months old, so I'm pretty sure it is not the battery. I plan to check the grounding as my next step. There is really nothing much in the starter circuit, the positive goes from the battery directly to the starter, the ign swith and the inhibitor switch (auto tranny) are just in the pathway to groung the circuit.

Please read my post, the battery is fully charged and tested, it is less the 6 months old.

OK, I found the code 12, in the Fuel Injection section, it states, "Detectable part = Starter SW1, Description = Whether starter switch remains OFF or not when engine speed is low (The switch must not remain OFF)" I wish that made sense to me, but it doesn't, I read the code with the ignition switch in the on position and when the engine does turn over, it does it slowly, so that statement for the code doesn't make sense to me. Two pages later is list the trouble codes and claas a code 12, " Starter switch in OFF mode", whatever that means. So I got to the trouble shooting guide, and it talk about checking voltage at a connector. But I think this error code is a result of the weird elctricaly problem, not the cause of it.

The 85 GL 4WD Turbo Wagon (auto tranny) is having a wierd electrical problem. It acts like the battery is not charged. Well I should say somethings it acts that way. The battery has been fully charged and the terminals cleaned, the starter has been replaced, but the problem is still there. When you first try to start it, you get the clicking sound like a weak battery and the starter trying to engage. When you release the key and it goes to the on position, the dash warning lights are dim, but slowly get brighter. If I try to start the car again, the starter engages and turns over slowly, too slowing to start the engine, plus I don't think there is enough electricity for the fuel injection to work properly. The same thing that happened before, happens again when to ignition switch is retured to the 'on' position, the warning lights are dim, but slowly get brighter. I checked the FSM, and in the engine trouble shooting area, it states to check the trouble shooting area for the starting system, but as much as I look, having gone through all four books of the FSM set, I can not find a starting system section, let alone a trouble shooting section for that system. I check the ECU (ECM in the FSM) see a code 12, but check the FSM for the codes, it only shows codes for the ECC (Electronic Controled Carburator), and 12 is not one of those code. I thought someone had put these codes in the "USRM - Repair & Mod" section of this web site, but could find them there. So, now I'm heading to check the FSM library that I purchased to see it there is a separate trouble shooting guide, but I don't remember one. If anyone has any idea what a code 12 mean in an EA82T, 1985 model year, please let me know.

Actually, for Calebz, that was rather gentle.

You're probably going to think this is a smart rump roast answer, but think about it. It really depends whether you are buying or selling. If you are buying, you want to get it as cheap as possible, if you are selling, you want to get the most for it. I can't remember what PAPs around here wants for one, but I think it is less the $25.00. The last person who asked me if I had one, I said I'd give them one. So my advise is to name a price, then stand back and see what happens. If people jump all over it, you guessed to low, if it gets no bites, then it is too high.

The GL-10 in 89 had the LSD as standard equipment. The LSD was an option on all most every model for years 1985 to 1989.

My avatar is the label for the LSD, Subaru wouldn't mislabel them, but what might happened is someone might have had one rebuilt and the rebuilder put the wrong rear cover on the diff. The wheel spin is a good way to test, but if someone welded the rear diff, it will also spin the same direction.

It's kind of small, but look at my avatar picture.

I would say the the chart is wrong, since the RXs had LSDs and they were only available in a 3.70 ration in 85, therefore the tranny would also have to have a 3.70 ratio.

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I heard they were going to print at the end of September, so hopefully we should be getting issue #1 soon.

BRATs rule the Truck/SUV, notice two Rachners and two Quales, and all winners members of this board. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

Zap is right, and if it was a 89, it definately would have a LSD since they were standard on all 89 GL-10 4WD manual tranny cars.

Gee Ed, do you have food on your mind, besides repeating the Gorge drive, you also repeated the meals.

Dang, Bend's loss, but Portland's gain, the Bend/Sisters/Redmond area needs more Subaru fanatics, not fewer. Oh well, looks like I won't be seeing you when I come down to Sisters around Christmas.

No he really does work at the sign shop, he has this thing for vinyl.

Boy, that's weird, a 2WD turbo wagon, I've seen 2WD turbo sedans, but never a wagon. So, after the engine is gone, I guess just body parts are left since the tranny (2WD auto) is blown.

The main reason is that the ring and pinion gears in the 3.90 are already matched and shimmed. Just putting the 39 tooth ring gear into the LSD case will not work since the pinion gear isn't matched to that ring gear.

I hope he realizes that I'm joking. Heck who knows, I might actually get a chance to get to know him better.

All the way to Hood River with you??? Not Likely!!!

WOW Gloria, you found us!!! I might be up for the Saturday rally, but I need to be to work at 4:30 AM on Monday, and that is a long drive to make after the rally on Sunday.