EJ D/R Tranny ??s from NZ (I've read MANY recent threads, want newest info)

[superu]

Hello all,

 

I am VERY interested in southern hemisphere D/R tranny for my USA 95 Legacy 2.2.

I have many inquiries bouncing around on this board then today found 5 threads

(http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103665...........Ian; http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103495; http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103567; http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103720; http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103125; http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103665&page=2)

describing a working deal between many USMBers and a new poster from NZ (kiwishooter).

 

Unfortunately, as often occurs in web forums, there has been a LOT of misunderstanding and snarky spray bouncing around. Sorry to read that, but so it goes.

 

As I indicated, I am VERY interested in a D/R full time AWD tranny. These forementioned threads describe D/R trannies from late model legacies, some with center locking capabilities (there seems to be some disagreement on this actuality), but ALL are dual range and would bolt up to our USA EJ vehicles.

 

I (speaking solely, but perhaps for others) would like to see if we can get these multiple threads consolidated to one place with the most up to date info.

 

Sounds like (and please correct me if I'm wrong) USA buyers would be paying around $400 (+/-) for a D/R EJ-fitted AWD shipped from NZ to LA. More if shipped to Seattle.

 

My personal interest is in final drive gearing and in low range reduction gearing.

 

Please correct mt if I'm wrong but I understand these trannies to be:

 

5 speed manual

3.9 (or are they 3.7) final drive

1.19 low range gear reduction

 

Thank everyone who's interested (like me), and perhaps if this gets consolidated into ONE recent thread, title it something with *cumulative info on D/R EJ trannies shipped to USA, updated as of (insert date)*

 

Thanks again to everyone involved, especially to kiwishooter for the offer to share NZ D/R with te US and Grossgary for footing much of the spray, to the friend in IN for offering/agreeing to be the financial mediator and to the shop in Seattle for agreeing to be a US receiving port.

 

Again, count me as interested in D/R AWD transmission to bolt-on to my EJ22, pending gearing and low range applicability.

Edited September 24, 2009 by superu

[TheSubaruJunkie]

So if you already found 5 threads (one of which answers all your questions) then why create a 6th?

[superu]

So if you already found 5 threads (one of which answers all your questions) then why create a 6th?

 

Good question, but frankly, they don't answer all my questions. They really banter back and forth with dates and figures and created confusion from a good idea.

 

I've been REALLY interested in importing an Aussie D/R AWD tranny for a few years. In fact I have gotten MANY of my questions answered directly from Phizinza. But, I've been away from the forum this summer a LOT, then came on today browsing other avenues I rarely visit, like the retrofitting forum. And lo, found all these recent threads on the same idea I have been quite interested in for some time.

 

As such, I was just hoping to get a little consolidation of the most recent info from the involved parties and organizers, for myself as well as for clarification for others interested and involved.

 

That's all

[kiwishooter]

Superu, I've been to Moab, back in 2005 when my wife and I did a trip around Ca, Utah and Arizona before flying over to Detroit. I did over 6000 miles in 5 weeks. I really enjoyed the NP's in Utah and would like to come back.....especially to Zion.

 

Anyway the Legacy Hi/Lo boxes that I have opened up have had 3.7 final drive and 1.47 lo ratio with the same gear ratios as the EA RX gearbox that I opened up.

 

When I got the quote for the shipping I found that 1 cubic meter or 1000kg was the minumum charge for freight so I figured I could get 6 gearboxes into a box that size, maybe 7.

 

I can get 9 or 10 of the Legacy EJ gearboxes with Hi/Lo and some of those would have locking centre diff.

 

I reckon that I can fit 9 maybe 10 into a 1.5 cubic meter box.

 

So I worked out the cost of shipping 10 gearboxes in the 1.5 cubic meter box to Scooby in Seattle.

 

When the cost of freight etc and purchase of the gearboxes was worked out the NZ exchange rate was around the US$0.66 per NZ$1.00 and the cost worked out at around the US$350 per gearbox landed in Scooby's yard in Seattle.

 

Since then the NZ dollar has climbed against the US dollar and is now around US$0.72 per NZ$1.00, so this has added US$18 to the purchase price of each gearbox and since the quote for the freight is only valid till the 28th the cost of freight will increase as well.

 

To make this work I needed enough buyers for 6 gearboxes......but so far Subrutex and ShawnW are the only ones who have put up their hand and said YES i will buy one.

 

GeneralDisorder said If he was going to buy one he would much rather pay $700 for a single unit - shipped by someone that at least has verified what's in it and that it doesn't look like a hand-grenade went off inside it. So I offered to do this for him but have had no reply.

 

Have had a few PM's regarding some of the posts and people posting which explained a few things and is the only reason I haven't just pulled the plug on the whole thing.

 

That is about it, the price per gearbox was US$350 but is now US$368 and will increase after the 28th depending on the NZ exchange rate against the US dollar.

 

One thing about the exchange rate it makes it cheaper for me to buy things from the US:banana: And I still need a few things for my other project......Ian

[GeneralDisorder]

GeneralDisorder said If he was going to buy one he would much rather pay $700 for a single unit - shipped by someone that at least has verified what's in it and that it doesn't look like a hand-grenade went off inside it. So I offered to do this for him but have had no reply.

 

I said *IF* I were going to buy one. I never said when. So far I'm not comfortable that you aren't a scammer - you are new here - 48 posts - and you want LOTS of money and you want it NOW. How do you suppose that looks?

 

I hope that's not the case, but I'm a skeptic and I'll beleive it when I see it.

 

And if it does come to pass, then I'll wait for one of the 10 that you send here to be resold (at least a couple will go unused - people buy stuff all the time and fail to do anything with it). Hell there was one for sale within a few hundered miles of me just a few months back.

 

GD

Edited September 25, 2009 by GeneralDisorder

[Numbchux]

superu. the problem is, the EJ D/Rs are not all the same. some have locking centers (this seems to be a japan-specific thing, which means it occasionally made it to NZ. but not OZ), some have VLSD center. And there were many different gearing options. That's why there's different information floating around, and I'm not sure what 1-5 gears mine has.

 

 

But, what it all boils down to, is if it's gearing you're after. I wouldn't bother. whatever you get, you'll be pulling it apart, and rebuilding it using all USDM internals anyway (1.59:1 low range from an PT4WD EA82 box, 4.111 R&P and center diff from a standard EJ 5MT). You could do all this with an EA82 D/R case and an adapter plate.

 

In my experience, the ONLY reason to get an EJ D/R, is for the clutch. If you're looking to put fairly big power through it, and you want a better clutch for it. That's why I bought the one I have, I had planned to put a supercharged EJ22e in front of it, and I wanted the clutch to hold ~200lb/ft (engine probably wouldn't be putting out quite that much anytime soon....but it's possible). And I wanted the gears for autocrossing.

 

 

also, there is nothing available in other markets (that I know of....these threads have been no exception), than allow fully lockable center diff with anything other than a 3.9 axle ratio. So if that's a priority to you, you'd pay all that money to import a gearbox, tear it apart and make a hybrid, and still end up with the exact same gearing that a very common EA82 D/R has. You'd just have a better clutch.

[kiwishooter]

GD As I have pointed out in another post since this deal is draging out due to all the uncertainty and BS you seem to inject into these threads, the NZ exchange rate has improved against the US dollar and increased the price of the gearboxes.

 

One of my faults is I am outspoken and often say what I am thinking and usually not in a diplomatic way...... I think of it as a plus because then people KNOW where I stand.

 

 

My reply to you is in bold in the

I said *IF* I were going to buy one. I never said when.

 

I would rather you didn't buy one, I have had a few PM's from other users of this forum about you.

 

So far I'm not comfortable that you aren't a scammer - you are new here - 48 posts - and you want LOTS of money and you want it NOW. How do you suppose that looks?

 

I have confirmed who I am and have given references.....if you think I am a scammer then you shouldn't even consider buying a gearbox. As for wanting the money NOW what a croc if you even bothered to read the timeline you would see that Scooby would be holding the money until I showed photos of the gearboxes ready to ship. I don't see YOU offering to fund this deal out of YOUR pocket by paying for the gearboxes BEFORE recieving any money, with the possibility of ending up owning a quantity of Subaru gearboxes if some buyers turn around and say "NO" I can't afford it now.

 

I hope that's not the case, but I'm a skeptic and I'll beleive it when I see it.

 

I am sceptical that you would even buy one, let alone put down money to buy one. And personally I would rather you didn't ever get to own one beacuse of work others and I carried out.

 

And if it does come to pass, then I'll wait for one of the 10 that you send here to be resold (at least a couple will go unused - people buy stuff all the time and fail to do anything with it). Hell there was one for sale within a few hundered miles of me just a few months back.

 

GD all gearboxes will be sold and paid for BEFORE they are shipped and I would say that anyone selling one for profit would want US$700 or even US$800 as if they bought more than one they are in it for the profit. Personally I would rather buy any gearboxes back than see you end up with one I arranged to send to the US.

 

 

Yes this has gotten personal I do not appreciate being called a scammer, which you have done.........so unless you have something constructive to say please go and annoy someone else.......Ian

 

PS at least I am open enough to post my real name and not hide my identity.

 

Ian

[kiwishooter]

superu. the problem is, the EJ D/Rs are not all the same. some have locking centers (this seems to be a japan-specific thing, which means it occasionally made it to NZ. but not OZ), some have VLSD center. And there were many different gearing options. That's why there's different information floating around, and I'm not sure what 1-5 gears mine has.

 

Numbchux I have stated in other posts that theae gearboxes are coming out of NZ NEW vehicles, in other words Subaru's that were first registered from new in New Zealand.......so where does this "Japan specific" come from??

 

New Zealand is a seperate entity to Aussie so if any Aussie commenting on this actually knows the NZ car market they probably will spin a load of BS.

 

Also I haven't said any of these gearboxes have VLSD and so far with both the EJ Hi/Lo ratio gearboxes I have opened up, and bothered to count the teeth to get ratios, have had the same ratios as the EA RX gearbox I opened up and have posted the ratios in another thread and neither had the VLSD.

 

But, what it all boils down to, is if it's gearing you're after. I wouldn't bother. whatever you get, you'll be pulling it apart, and rebuilding it using all USDM internals anyway (1.59:1 low range from an PT4WD EA82 box, 4.111 R&P and center diff from a standard EJ 5MT). You could do all this with an EA82 D/R case and an adapter plate.

 

This is assuming that everyone buying one of these gearboxes does want to pull the gearbox apart and alter it to something other than what the factor put in there. Some may just want to buy one because the can just unbolt one gearbox and bolt the new one in.

 

 

 

In my experience, the ONLY reason to get an EJ D/R, is for the clutch. If you're looking to put fairly big power through it, and you want a better clutch for it. That's why I bought the one I have, I had planned to put a supercharged EJ22e in front of it, and I wanted the clutch to hold ~200lb/ft (engine probably wouldn't be putting out quite that much anytime soon....but it's possible). And I wanted the gears for autocrossing.

 

 

also, there is nothing available in other markets (that I know of....these threads have been no exception), than allow fully lockable center diff with anything other than a 3.9 axle ratio. So if that's a priority to you, you'd pay all that money to import a gearbox, tear it apart and make a hybrid, and still end up with the exact same gearing that a very common EA82 D/R has. You'd just have a better clutch.

 

This is in your experience, I for one would have been happy to buy a EJ Legacy Hi/Lo gearbox with 1.47 lo ratio center diff lock and just bolt it in place instead of going to all the trouble of pulling a EJ Hi/Lo ratio box to bits and fitting up the RX center diff lock.....perhaps others wwould want to do the same.......Ian

[GeneralDisorder]

Yes this has gotten personal I do not appreciate being called a scammer, which you have done.........so unless you have something constructive to say please go and annoy someone else.......Ian

 

PS at least I am open enough to post my real name and not hide my identity.

 

Well - you may *think* it's personal, but it isn't. You have less than 50 posts - I have 12,400. You live many, many thousands of miles away - I have met a LOT of members here face-to-face. My name is Rick and most of the folks around here know that. Some of them don't like me - but that comes with the territory and I probably don't like them either.

 

The simple fact that you are unwilling to endure my questioning and scepticism reinforces the supposition that you are not being entirely honest. Perhaps you are a scammer - perhaps you really *are* making money on these transmissions - maybe you are planning to send us a pile of junk tranny's - perhaps you are entirely above-board. What doesn't make sense though is your willingness to do this out of the kindness of your heart for all us Subaru fans in the US - and at the same time you are a total a$$-hole when it comes to answering questions and calming nerves.

 

Regardless, your actions thus far are not building confidence - attacking me gains you nothing here and only reinforces my posistion that you aren't worth dealing with. I only hope that the people who do put money down on a transmission from you aren't dissapointed - unfortunately if they are there will be no recourse as internet scams from outside the US are rarely prosecuted.

 

Rest-assured I could afford half a dozen of these if I wanted them. And it doesn't sound like a bad idea to get a couple. But not from you - not this time around anyway. As for them commanding $700 or $800 in the US after they get here - unlikely. The crowd that's into these things isn't "in the money" if you get my drift. Lots of folks that want them (or think they do) - very few that have the money to put down (as you are seeing). No - if you ship 10 of them there will be several for sale within a year for about what they paid you for them - maybe less if someone is really hurting. Happens all the time. Old Subaru parts depreciate - they are not a wise investment.

 

GD

Edited September 26, 2009 by GeneralDisorder

[idosubaru]

The questions about what exactly is being bought are absolutely essential and need to be clarified. Final drive and VLSD or center diff lock are essential. 4 bolt or 8 bolt and hydraulic verses cable clutch also come to mind since those are US specific differences. And what about mileage? Do some have 50k and others have 200k? High mileage transmissions are everywhere over here.

 

I happen to like Rick, I even know his *given* name. If you aren't comfortable, move on and let the free market work it's magic on those involved. You've made your comments which act as a good disclaimer for anyone interested.

 

Personally I get the feeling this guy is legit and I'm good at reading people. I know enough amazing people that i'm not 100% cynical (yet!).

 

I have arranged shipping stuff all over the world and troubleshooting boxes of parts and FSM's in the US. When offering time, parts, and resources "free" i limit time investment. It's "my way or the highway" to some extent, if I'm doing it free. It's easy to get wrapped up in stuff - emails, PM's, phone calls, people wanting special treatment, save a buck, services, check for something else, throw something else in on the deal, different colors or sizes from everyone else, quicker shipping...etc. That gets demanding quick, though it just seems like one set of questions to any given individual asking. In a sense you're "getting what you pay for" if someone is offering free services:lol:.

 

If you want all out service, warranty, and parts - call around and find a place to answer your questions, do your research for you, investigate every transmission, and return your calls. you're going to have to pay for that.

 

When dealing with used parts, there's always *some* amount of risk, I think anyone buying parts knows that. Everyone involved is just hoping nothing comes of it.

Edited September 26, 2009 by grossgary

[GeneralDisorder]

The questions about what exactly is being bought are absolutely essential and need to be clarified. Final drive and VLSD or center diff lock are essential. 4 bolt or 8 bolt and hydraulic verses cable clutch also come to mind since those are US specific differences. And what about mileage? Do some have 50k and others have 200k? High mileage transmissions are everywhere over here.

 

I agree 100%. A high mileage transmission without the gearing/center diff setup I want is worth NOTHING to me - let alone $350. There is going to at least have to be enough info gathered to determine both what year/model/mileage each transmission came from, and what those years/models had for gearing and options. Without that it's a shipping container full of boat anchors. Opening each one up is probably overkill, but at *least* the information on where they came from and what they *most likely* have inside them should be obtained. Obviously since they were NZ native models that information should be availible at the Subaru dealer's in NZ - we in the US don't have access to it.

 

I recognize that you aren't getting the money till the tranny's are received here in Seattle, but not a single one will have been tested or even opened up and inspected by that time - what's to prevent a load of dud transmissions (obviously you have access as you claim to have a trans shop) being packaged and sent here - you are then sent the money and dissapear..... Of course there is a certain amount of risk, but the amount of "rushing" you are doing seems excessive and you seem unwilling to do even the small amount of legwork required to ascertain what these transmissions *should* have inside them. And I don't know a single wrecker that sells transmissions that doesn't at least record EXACTLY what year/model/mileage is on each of them. Especially not for $200 US. I can buy tranny's with a 90 day warantee for that much here in the states. I can buy one's with at 30 day gaurantee from the self-service yards for $120 US.

 

GD

[kiwishooter]

Well - you may *think* it's personal, but it isn't. You have less than 50 posts - I have 12,400. You live many, many thousands of miles away - I have met a LOT of members here face-to-face. My name is Rick and most of the folks around here know that. Some of them don't like me - but that comes with the territory and I probably don't like them either.GD

 

To me it is personal when you start inferring I am a scammer. As for the number of posts I think that means diddly squat, I have purchased on Ebay off people with no history and haven't been burnt but have been burnt by someone with over 1000 positive feedback rating.

 

 

The simple fact that you are unwilling to endure my questioning and scepticism reinforces the supposition that you are not being entirely honest. Perhaps you are a scammer - perhaps you really *are* making money on these transmissions - maybe you are planning to send us a pile of junk tranny's - perhaps you are entirely above-board. What doesn't make sense though is your willingness to do this out of the kindness of your heart for all us Subaru fans in the US - and at the same time you are a total a$$-hole when it comes to answering questions and calming nerves. GD

 

No I am not unwilling to endure your questioning but as I have stated I'm not making a profit on this transaction so if you want me to answer your questions to the fullest then "Pay Me" for my time because while I'm doing that I'm not working in my business. To find the answer to your questions I have to do it during business hours which is when the wrecker and Subaru dealership is open. But it seems you would rather have me put in countless hours answering your questions for nothing.....I have stated what I'm prepared to do for no pay, so if you want the answers send your money to Scooby, and that money is non refundable, the cost of a gearbox is over and above what you pay for my time.

 

 

Regardless, your actions thus far are not building confidence - attacking me gains you nothing here and only reinforces my posistion that you aren't worth dealing with. I only hope that the people who do put money down on a transmission from you aren't dissapointed - unfortunately if they are there will be no recourse as internet scams from outside the US are rarely prosecuted. GD

 

I am not attcking you, I'm just replying to your posts about me......which I guess really is just a waste of my time. Internet scams inside the US aren't prosecuted either.....I know that from experience, and I have never scammed anyone in my life. Perhaps that is why I am not as full of scepticism as you.

 

Rest-assured I could afford half a dozen of these if I wanted them. And it doesn't sound like a bad idea to get a couple. But not from you - not this time around anyway. As for them commanding $700 or $800 in the US after they get here - unlikely. The crowd that's into these things isn't "in the money" if you get my drift. Lots of folks that want them (or think they do) - very few that have the money to put down (as you are seeing). No - if you ship 10 of them there will be several for sale within a year for about what they paid you for them - maybe less if someone is really hurting. Happens all the time. Old Subaru parts depreciate - they are not a wise investment. GD

 

 

Well if you can afford a half dozen gearboxes than paying the US$350 - $400 for my time should be very achievable for you. As I have said I'd rather not sell you one, and as I stated in one of my other posts anyone selling one to you after they arrive should charge you $700- $800, after all you were the one stating you "would " pay that for one. As you state the crowd interested in these aren't "into the money" (as you put it) which is the reason I don't want to make a profit out of it, therefor transferring all savings I can to them. If old Subaru parts depreciate so much you should see what Subaru Brumby utes are being listed in car sales for here......the dollar figure is more than what they sold for new.

[kiwishooter]

The questions about what exactly is being bought are absolutely essential and need to be clarified. Final drive and VLSD or center diff lock are essential. 4 bolt or 8 bolt and hydraulic verses cable clutch also come to mind since those are US specific differences. And what about mileage? Do some have 50k and others have 200k? High mileage transmissions are everywhere over here.

 

The gearboxes are out of 89-93 Legacy's and pretty sure thay all have cable clutch as only the RS had hyd clutch during that era, as yet I haven't come across any with VLSD. Since the gearboxes are still in cars I can give the mileage, which is in km's, for the vehicles which still have speedos. I haven't counted how many of these have centre diff lock just the number that have Hi/Lo which is 9 or 10, and possibly 6 or so have centre diff lock.

 

What do you mean by 4bolt ot 8 bolt??

 

As I have put in a post to GD, I can find out other details, like final drive gear ratios etc but this will take time during business hours. I have already been down to the Subaru dealer and the workshop manuals aren't on the workshop shelves anymore after all the vehicles are almost 20 years old. So finding out details will take time which I would need to be paid for. After all while I'm working on these I'm not working in my business.......Ian

[Numbchux]

EDIT: post removed.....too many inconsistencies. no point arguing

Edited September 27, 2009 by Numbchux

[GeneralDisorder]

As I have put in a post to GD, I can find out other details, like final drive gear ratios etc but this will take time during business hours. I have already been down to the Subaru dealer and the workshop manuals aren't on the workshop shelves anymore after all the vehicles are almost 20 years old. So finding out details will take time which I would need to be paid for. After all while I'm working on these I'm not working in my business.......Ian

 

So you refuse to ascertain the details on what is inside these transmissions either by tracking down the documention or by opening them and counting some gear teeth unless you are paid for your time?

 

Yet you are donating a much greater share of time to quoteing, packaging, shipping, and communication with this board on these transmissions....why? Because you are just that good of a person?

 

The dicotomy here is astounding. I do not beleive for an instant that the same person that wouldn't lift a telephone receiver to find out the gear ratios of a transmission he is purchasing from a wrecker would do all the quoteing, packaging, shipping, and posting here on this board for a big fat "thanks pal".

 

I just don't have that much faith in humanity.

 

And I never said I "would" pay $700 for one - I said I would *rather* pay $700 to someone else that is willing to go through it. You have already burned that bridge by your attitude.

 

Without knowing at least the final drive of the things, we have no idea what rear differential to use with them. Which means NO ONE here can use them without first opening them up and finding out what's inside. Why the hell would I pay $350 for a transmission I have to tear into? And that single point invalidates your supposition that people here "might want the use them as is without alteration". We simply can't without knowing what the hell is inside them. Thus if you NEED to be paid for that information gathering it should have been figured into the price of the transmissions..... oh wait! then you would be making money on the deal wouldn't you?

 

GD

Edited September 27, 2009 by GeneralDisorder

[idosubaru]

no resolution will happen here, move on. this is like the arm-chair quarter back. not interested in buying - read the threads regarding rules on for sale items, have you seen them after 12,000 posts . you don't like the price or deal - move on.

 

i don't necessarily see dichotomy GD. locating trans and finding shipping info can be done all online or with a few phone calls.

 

he may have no idea what's involved in figuring out final drive ratios. but i've seen mention of "splitting the case". i'd walk away from this gig if it were true, no way i'm liable for something not going back together right. if folks were interested and helpful they should be plugging around trying to find out info.

 

fortunately it doesn't require splitting the case - but since folks are not interested in helping this guy, no one has bothered to tell him that yet.

 

maybe he does need to update the process here - like find out who needs specific gear ratios and who doesn't care, i'm sure he's considering that now. it's hard for me to imagine that the folks signing up haven't thought about gear ratios.

 

there's a trans chart for manual trans stuff, not sure if NZ market is on there or not, but someone should go find it.

 

as to validity of the deal - call the references and talk to the middle man holding the cash. the info is out there, make some effort.

[GeneralDisorder]

read the threads regarding rules on for sale items, have you seen them after 12,000 posts . you don't like the price or deal - move on.

 

Those are the For Sale forum rules AFAIK. Being in the retro-fitting forum, and being a post regarding the differences/value of EJ D/R transmissions I just can't see how that rule applies here. Normally I would agree with you though.

 

fortunately it doesn't require splitting the case - but since folks are not interested in helping this guy, no one has bothered to tell him that yet.

 

Without knowing the gear ratios's, how would you tell the difference between a 3.7, 3.9 and a 4.11? Those are all very close when you are talking about trying to count revolutions of shafts and such - and you don't know the gear ratio's for sure. 4th is close to 1:1 on most of them but there's no way to know for sure.....

 

GD

[Subarutex]

GD, you have made it very clear that you are not ready to buy a transmission from NZ. Please move on.

 

Chux, in one post you state that not all EJ manual trannies come with VLSD centers. You follow that up by being outraged at the fact that the NZ trannies do not have VLSD and are open. Then you state that all EJ manual trannies have some sort of traction aid. This is all very contradictory. If all EJ manuals have a traction aid, why did YOU jump to the conclusion of open when it was confirmed they do not have VLSD?

[The Beast I Drive]

Ok. Kiwishooter has offered to collect, pack, and ship up to 10 D/R EJ transmissions from New Zealand to the US, for a Very reasonable price at that. I can understand why he doesnt want to spend more of his time than he has to for little to no profit.

 

Regardless of what gear ratios will be sent here, Im sure there will be buyers.

 

As for figuring the gear ratios, quickest easiest way would be to look at the tag on the rear diff. Typically, the rear diff ratio is a pretty good indication of what the trans gear ratio is (as Kiwi has already stated, the trannies are still in the cars) Also the door jam tag might have that info as well.

 

As far as arguing and bickering and picking at one another, grow up people. GD if you want to argue over opinions, nit-pick at everything Kiwi says, and mar and slander every one of these EJ DR threads, feel free to do so. You have proven you can. But I and Im sure many others would appreciate it if you would stop. Its childish and stupid, if you have a problem with Kiwi or his merits/methods/reputation, take it to PM where it belongs in the first place.

 

Good luck to all on this deal, if I was into the EJ vehicles Id be in on this deal, but Im an EA faithful...

 

-Bill

[GeneralDisorder]

GD, you have made it very clear that you are not ready to buy a transmission from NZ. Please move on.

 

Respectfully, this thread is about the differences/value of D/R EJ transmissions from NZ and who/where to get them from. It is not a "for sale" thread nor was it started by a seller of such goods.

 

Further, I never said I was not ready to buy one. I said I haven't heard/seen enough to be comfortable buying one from the recent purveyor of said goods. I am interested in buying one but thus far we can't get a straight answer as to what we are even buying.

 

GD

[GeneralDisorder]

As for figuring the gear ratios, quickest easiest way would be to look at the tag on the rear diff.

 

Tags are often not present on newer gen EJ diffs. I don't know if they stopped using them or if they more easily fall off due to inferior adhesives or what. And you can't gaurantee that every car in a wrecking yard will have a diff tag. Besides that - he has as much as said he isn't willing to track that info down without payment for his "time".

 

GD if you want to argue over opinions, nit-pick at everything Kiwi says, and mar and slander every one of these EJ DR threads, feel free to do so.

 

I DO want to nit-pick as you call it. I want to know what is being sold. That is only fair considering the price he is asking for them. $200+ US just for the cost of the tranny's is high by US wrecking yard standards for used transmissions in unknown condition and I would get all the information I could want about those. I see no reason it should be different just because they are on another continent.

 

I never slandered the man. I said I "am not conviced" that he isn't a scammer. HE claims he took it personally - which is his problem. These days you can't be too careful about such things and I'm not one to be scammed - even if it means I wait and see if the "first batch" of "customers" gets the rug pulled out from under them.

 

GD

[monstaru]

will you just shut the ************ up...........if people want to do it, let it be.what the ************ are you?a saviour?piss off.we can save our selves.......cheers, or not.brian

 

 

 

Tags are often not present on newer gen EJ diffs. I don't know if they stopped using them or if they more easily fall off due to inferior adhesives or what. And you can't gaurantee that every car in a wrecking yard will have a diff tag. Besides that - he has as much as said he isn't willing to track that info down without payment for his "time".

 

 

 

I DO want to nit-pick as you call it. I want to know what is being sold. That is only fair considering the price he is asking for them. $200+ US just for the cost of the tranny's is high by US wrecking yard standards for used transmissions in unknown condition and I would get all the information I could want about those. I see no reason it should be different just because they are on another continent.

 

I never slandered the man. I said I "am not conviced" that he isn't a scammer. HE claims he took it personally - which is his problem. These days you can't be too careful about such things and I'm not one to be scammed - even if it means I wait and see if the "first batch" of "customers" gets the rug pulled out from under them.

 

GD

[Numbchux]

Chux, in one post you state that not all EJ manual trannies come with VLSD centers. You follow that up by being outraged at the fact that the NZ trannies do not have VLSD and are open. Then you state that all EJ manual trannies have some sort of traction aid. This is all very contradictory. If all EJ manuals have a traction aid, why did YOU jump to the conclusion of open when it was confirmed they do not have VLSD?

 

not outraged, just confused. it doesn't add up. I was just trying to learn some more about the other markets, and since he couldn't be sure on what he had, I was trying to fill in the blanks. but I throw in the towel, I don't think there will be any more constructive information here.

[cubastreet]

I spoke to Ian at on the phone a couple of weeks back, he seems legit.

 

Ian, I've bought an RX trans with the insides renovated. No hi/lo, no difflock but awd with 4.11 diffs so I think I'll run with that for now and see how I like it.

 

I was given an ea82 box with hi/lo and can confirm it has no centre diff, just fwd/4wd, I think rx is the only ea box with centre diff.

[Numbchux]

I spoke to Ian at on the phone a couple of weeks back, he seems legit.

 

Ian, I've bought an RX trans with the insides renovated. No hi/lo, no difflock but awd with 4.11 diffs so I think I'll run with that for now and see how I like it.

 

I was given an ea82 box with hi/lo and can confirm it has no centre diff, just fwd/4wd, I think rx is the only ea box with centre diff.

 

correction (in the US anyway), the RX is the only dual-range EA box with a center diff. many turbo EA82s and XT6s had Full-time 4WD with a locking center diff....just no lo range.