Meeky Moose Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 bought an 88' gl wagon 4wd 3at today.. car has no rust, etc.. very nice.. no 3rd gear, so i got it home pulled the governor out. and the gear is so apple cored that it no longer turns.. the valve itself is on good shape and not binding in any way.. so my question is does the gear come off of the assembly and can it be replaced without replacing the hole thing, or do i need to just replace the hole thing? next off, if i gotta replace the hole thing where can i get one? third.. do any of you have a good one, i can give ya a few bucks for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 mail sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROGDOR! Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I got a good one. It's yours if you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted January 31, 2004 Author Share Posted January 31, 2004 hey trog, is yours already out? gear in good shape etc..? skip has one too but its buried in snow at the moment, was hopin to get this fixed and p[lates on teh car this week so the wife will have a car to drive.. maybe you can overnight it to me or something.. i'll pay for shipping, no prob there.. thanks let me know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Make sure you inspect the gear in the tranny for wear - ruining another gov would be a waste. I have seen tranny's that will eat a gov a week cause of bad front diff's. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted January 31, 2004 Author Share Posted January 31, 2004 i need to poke my peepers in the hole sometime before hand.. but just by stickin my fingers in there the inside gear feels like it should.. not worn out or anything.. if it does need replaced how is that done? any easy way without pullin the tranny? cause if i gotta pull the tranny its going to be a 5-speed when it goes back together.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardgabe Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 that and you'll want to change the gear oil while your there which will help from eating another one each one i've change has had atf which it's not suppose to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Gabe, are we talking about the same part -pictured below? As this statement is very confusing to me one each one i've change has had atf which it's not suppose to They work by controling the flow of the AFT, that's what my FSM says. Please explain and correct me if I am mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardgabe Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 if i remember correctly it was in the front final drive where the gear oil is .but ya that the part i was talking about .but i could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROGDOR! Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Tony... my governor gear is installed in a transmission which is out of the car. Would take me 5 minutes to get it out. Before I changed the tranny I pulled the governor and looked at it, and it's good. When the tranny was installed in the car it shifted BEAUTIFULLY- best shifting Subaru auto I'd ever driven. I canned the trans because it had horrible gear whine from inside the diff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 pm'ed ya good enough.. i just need one fast. hehe gotta wash it and take pics for the drooling to start. lol.. can't do that till i can drive it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 ohh yeah skip.. my governor came out without removing the 2 8mm bolts.. it slid right outa that housing.. i take it thats not normal? the usmb writeup on it didn't mention that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 pics of what i need.. this just pulled out of the housing around it.. the housing is the part held in with the 2 8mm bolts.. dunno if it was supposed to pull out or not.. it pratically fell out thats how easy it was to pull outa the housing.. chewed up huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardgabe Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 yup that was the problem ya they just slide out does the end smell like gear oil i never had to undo the two housing bolts either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 A diff that cores a Gov that bad will core another one. Cant tell you how long it will last, after my 2nd one they only lasted about 60mi. And its really hard to tell how bad the shaft is inside unless you pull the diff apart. Altho splitting the diff off the tranny isnt that hard, its just a pain pulling the tranny period (this I do know). Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 no gear oil, just atf.. smelled ok too.. ahh your no help rob, lol.. thats not what i wanted to hear.. guess i can replace, and if it cores another one then out it comes, and in goes a 5-speed D/R muaaahhhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Gabe, if your still reading, was yours worn like the one Meeky showed? The reason I asked is mine (I wrote the USRM article) would not "just slide out " Shame on me for thinking, it always gets me into trouble But could what ever holds the gov to the plate that has the 8 mm bolts get loose and allow the gear to mesh improperly thus causing the coring? Mine shows no signs of this wear pattern and I had to remove said bolts to remove the unit. I do not think it makes a diff but mine was a turbo. Plus I also stand (sit) corrected, it appears that the drive worm gear is in the diff (makes sense) and that end would have gear oil on it. The main operational part where the cleaning and deburring take place are in ATF these are separated by the seals seen clearly in Meeky's picture. Just a thought and some miscellaneous rambling by an old fart, please return to your normal channel at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardgabe Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 All the ones that I've pulled at the junkyard were non- turbo and they all just slid out. The one my mother's driving, went through two, and the third one has lasted over 100k miles now. The reason the first two went, was because someone had changed the front diff oil with a t f. If that helps any!?! Meeky Moose- have you checked the front diff oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 nope, guess i need to check.. thanks for the tips.. maybe thats why it cored like it did.. if your moms did the same thing.. gotta check the front diff now.. cross my fingers and hope thats it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 All of mine have pulled right out. And yes, they have diff oil in them, not ATF. Meeky, sounds like a seal went out between the diff and tranny. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 naw, i'm thinkin someone had it flushed at a spiffy lube and it got screwed up.. there is 0 gear oil in there. like its been drained and refilled with atf.. and its full to the mark, same with the trans.. fluid is real new as well, cause it smells new, and looks new.. at any rate, i'll keep the seal in mind, just incase it fills up with tranny fuild again, lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 As I said the gear has 90 wt but the other parts are controlling and therefore covered in ATF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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