It you're doin 65 in 4th gear and...

[subynut]

The timing belt lets go in a 02 outback with a manual. What would the damage be? Valves, heads, anything else?

[bheinen74]

would be worth it to put a good belt on it after ligning up your marks and see if it starts and runs without noises.

before you tear into it.

[EVOthis]

would be worth it to put a good belt on it after ligning up your marks and see if it starts and runs without noises.

before you tear into it.

 

 

+1 ^..Easy enough to pop another belt on....

[johnceggleston]

there is a slight chance there is no damage, but you probably have bent valves. there is almost 0 chance of piston or head damage.

 

put the belt on, and drive it. if necessary do a compression test, then you will know which cylinders have problems. but even if it is only on one side, you will still want to do both head gaskets , unless they have been done.

Edited January 13, 2010 by johnceggleston

[subynut]

That's what I get for assuming.....she said that it just died, so I figured it was the t-belt. Boy, was I wrong! Pulled the cover off to take a peek and the belt was intact! So, I tried to turn it by hand and it took some rocking, but I got it to spin by hand, tried to start it - very stubburn, but it did eventually start. However, there was a rather loud knock coming from the middle of the engine. It idled a little rough, although when I tried to rev it, with a very loud squeek squeek it stops dead in it's tracks if I get it over 2000.

Checked the oil - off the dipstick. I put 2 quarts in just to get it to register - made no difference. I do believe this engine has suffered lack of oil syndrome!

Looks like an engine swap. If there is one thing that kills these awesome cars it's lack of maintenence.

[markjw]

Wow..All the sudden a broken timing belt and bent valve stems would have been Good news.

[subynut]

Yeah, a serious bummer....never goes easy.....oh twell, that's the story of my life. :-\

 

Anyways, since I'm going to need an engine, what year span can I pick from?

It's the EJ251 SOHC with 10:1 compression

There are no 2002 engines in the entire state, however, there are a few 2003 with ~73k on them for about $1900 with a 90 day warranty and they're 170 miles away! That's half the cost of an engine from CCR with an 1/8 of the warranty.

 

OR

 

What is the extent of damage when an engine starves for oil and stops suddenly? What would need to be replaced? Or do I not want to know?

[markjw]

Yeah,that motor is more than likely damaged,but have you been able to drive the car around with the correct amount of lube oil in the engine? Do you have a oil pressure guage? What's it telling you?

[markjw]

 

OR

 

What is the extent of damage when an engine starves for oil and stops suddenly? What would need to be replaced? Or do I not want to know?

 

I've been able to get motors that have been starved for oil to run pretty good again without any work at all to the engine. Usually they will smoke a bit,but occasionally they won't be completly ruined.

 

Of course,that knocking thing ain't good,either. Maybe the knocking is the oil pump? And not a main bearing? Maybe? I'm not trying to give you some false hope,but If it were me,I'd be trying to get the motor to run and I'd find out exactly what the knocking is.

 

There is certainly more than one motor running around that had previously been run dry of oil.

Edited January 14, 2010 by markjw

[subynut]

The thing that concerns me is that it won't go beyond 2000 rpm. It just doesn't stumble and die like a lack of fuel or spark - it stops dead in it's tracks like you put the brakes on and locked up the tires. Also, It doesn't smoke at all - which is odd. Just sounds absolutely terrible. I think I am going to talk to my machinist and see what he says.

[bheinen74]

timing sounds off.

[subynut]

Well, after talking to the machinist, he said it's a spun main bearing that is blocking off a oil passage and the squeaking sound I hear is that crank bearing/connecting rod assembly running dry. I'm going to price out parts and go from there.