ea82 won't go back in

[dwuollet]

Ok, I blew a head gasket and since the car had 264000 miles I opted for a newer engine.

Got the180000 mile engine out and got the periferals switched including new clutch and Weber.

Now trying to reinstall engine and can't get the shaft on the tranny to go in the engine.

I've had it back out twice to make the clutch plate was lined up properly and tried to pull the bottom

Engine to trans studs so I could joggle the engine more, couldn't get them out. Help I need some advice

I was really hopeing to get this thing on the road soon.

Dave

[MilesFox]

place a jack under the trans to raise the whole deal above the engine crossmember, so you are not running into the frame as you are trying to mate the engine.

 

Also, since this is a different motor, make sure you do not have the same dowel pins on the motor and trans side. sometimes this will happen when using a different motor, since the dowels will either stick to the motor or trans either way

 

third, try rotating the crank as you go together. the pilot shaft can be a pain to get right. put the motor on enough that you can thread a nut on the bottom atuds, and use the top bolts to try to dwaw the motor together, going around and watching for a bind

 

raising the trans off the crossmember is key for this procedure.

 

let us know what you have tried already

 

I have made a series of videos to help you and others new to subarus

Edited February 1, 2010 by MilesFox

[john in KY]

Use some long bolts with the heads removed. Screw two into the bellhousing and they will act as "guide/alignment pins".

[dwuollet]

Thanks! I do have the trans jacked up, and thr dowel pins stayed in the trans. I haven't tried

To rotate the crank while pushing. I did get it close enough at one point to start threading bolts

But was afraid that wasn't the right way to go, in retrospect I should have kept going. I've lightly lubed the shaft and

The splines on the clutch. I'm going to go try the crank rotation trick right now.

[dwuollet]

I've actually done this several times, I've just never had this kind of trouble.

The videos are cool, just hard to watch on the bleckberry

[zyewdall]

The few times I've done this, it's been a royal pain to get them to slide back together... I've had to resort to the rotating the crankshaft trick. And, make sure you aren't binding up on the bottom/crossmember -- that happens alot even when you think they are all properly lined up and clearing it.

[markjw]

Hopefully you have it in place by now....The last ea82 engine I installed,the clutch inspection cover was bent in a manner that it was getting in the way of a proper engine/trans fit. It's thin metal and can bend easily.If one is on your new engine,take it off till you have the engine installed.

[GeneralDisorder]

Just leave the pressure plate bolts loose and tighten them through the starter hole. Oldest trick on the USMB. Works every time.

 

GD

[Gloyale]

hopefully you have it in place by now....the last ea82 engine i installed,the clutch inspection cover was bent in a manner that it was getting in the way of a proper engine/trans fit. It's thin metal and can bend easily.if one is on your new engine,take it off till you have the engine installed.

 

+1

[MilesFox]

there havebeen times for me that the motor goes together no problem, such as the first time i ever mated a trans to motor(ea81 3at to 5spd d/r conversion in ea81 turbo wagon)...

 

...to other times in a fwd ea81 that just would not go back together after 3 or 4 tries.

 

I have used the loose pp through the starter hole trick, mainly when i do not have a clutch alignment tool.

 

Just for the record this trick will not work on an ej fwd 5spd since the pp is too small in diameter to get you socket on the bolt

 

as a last resort you can try to sand down or use emery cloth on the pilot shaft from the trans, try to war off the edge so it doesn't hang up on the pilot bearing

 

for the sake of statistics, i would say that i get fitment issues 1 out of 4 engine matings. just be patient, if you wiggle/draw it on just right, you will 'feel' it go into the pilot hole

[markjw]

just be patient, if you wiggle/draw it on just right, you will 'feel' it go into the pilot hole

 

I've fought with them for twenty minutes with no luck. Walked away,came back and they just fell into place. What ever you do,don't resort to the "draw them together" with the bolts method. Bad stuff can happen.

[MilesFox]

I've fought with them for twenty minutes with no luck. Walked away,came back and they just fell into place. What ever you do,don't resort to the "draw them together" with the bolts method. Bad stuff can happen.

 

 

What i mean is using the bolts to draw together, but not force together, but draw evenly and squarely as the pilot shaft lines up. Little turns, tightening up and backing off as necessary to seat the pilot shaft, that's all

[dwuollet]

Thanks for all the info and support guys. I had been wondering if there was a way to lossen the pressure plate bolts and then re-tighten them, didn't think of going in through the starter hole. I'll try that tonight. off to work... Dave

[gbianchi]

Haven't seen this mentioned, I replaced an ea81 with a different one and the pilot bearing on the replacement was different than the original. Sucked because it went together then bound up the engine, and it was my first engine swap, changed out the pilot all went well, hope this helps............G

[dwuollet]

Thanks again everyone, I loosened the pressure plate bolts, which allowed the clutch plate to float, pushed the engine and tranny together to with-in about a half inch and used the bolts to pull it the rest of the way. Yay! Just need to tighten the pressure plate and bolt everything else together. I'm so excited, when it runs it will be like a totally different car.

[markjw]

used the bolts to pull it the rest of the way.QUOTE]

 

Good Luck with that...