mickytrus Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hello, I need to get some motor mounts. Ea82. Loyale 91 and for my 93...... Where is the best place (price)... It eats wheel bearings... inner wheel bearings fail at like 20,000 miles.... I am figuring it is the motor mounts causing this.... Any thoughts...... And what about swapping with a 2.2 Thats EJ motors........ How expensive can that get.... Say you already have the motor for the swap.. Micky:-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Never heard of this one, how do bad motor mounts cause wheel bearing failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoodsboy Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 use the search function above... and search for EJ SWAP. Pop some popcorn and start reading, youll be there a while- LOTS of information to be had. Youll definitely need an entire EJ22 donor vehicle to do a swap though. Just to get you started. Also : Ive NEVER heard of motor mounts in any way causing wheel bearing failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch de la Brat Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Ummm, not likely that your engine mounts are causing the problem. Chances are your hub has become warped and is distorted enough destroy wheel bearings. And hubs are usually cheap if you get them from a junkyard. Its easy to check to see if the existing bearings are good, just wiggle the end of the axle shaft. If they are still good then you should be ok to buy it. Oh, and more than likely if it were mounts causing your issue, I would think they would be the tranny mounts... And as for an EJ swap, it is worthy swap, but it requires an adapter plate, a redrilled flywheel, a merged engine harness, and a lot of other miscellaneous stuff that is better explained in the retrofitting section. As for cost of an EJ swap, it all depends on how much work you want to put into it. If you do all the wiring yourself, already have the engine, do all the necessary mods yourself, and only buy the stuff the average mechanic can't make (the adapter plate, clutch kit etc) you'll probably be around $500 into it. Twitch PS: Another hint, search for the info you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 I have a 91 Loyale and a 93 both are wagons. the 91 got new motor mounts when I redid the car. that was about 5 years ago @ 158k. Now the car has 262. so the motor mounts have about 110K on them. Just recently the exhaust front pipe broke. I still need to fix it... the welds cracked on both parts of the pipe off the heads, where they are welded to the cat. visually, the motor shakes when I rev it. so the idea with bad motor mounts burning wheel bearings is that when the motor is twisting constantly back and forth, back and forth due to the motor mounts this puts stress on the axles as they spin which then places stress on the spinning wheel bearings. Over time it prematurely wears the wheelbearings out... If you drive straight down the road, the wheel bearing is quite.... turn the wheel any slightest amount and you hear the lovely grinding sound...... Some one mentioned possible bad hubs..... can you describe a bad hub. how to determine a bad hub. I replace bearings on the passengerside of the other car the 93 and the inner bearing is toasted now..... It is probably about 15k old. I was even considering the possibility that they are manufacturing these bearing poorly.... So I got some dealer bearings.... It didn't make a difference...... I was even think that the grease is lame............. but I have used this grease in other bearings(but those were tapered roller bearings) really, I am changing wheel bearings more often that I change spark plugs..... Any insight would be greatly appreciated... Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 If anything, the increased torquing from the motor due to bad mounts would damage the inner axle shaft joint, but I doubt the slight amount of extra twist will do them any harm since they are designed to flex in 360* while transmitting the power to the wheels. The hubs can get out of round if the wheel bearings have been bad for awhile they distort the seat in the hub. If the hubs get distorted (out of round) then even if you put new bearings in, they will fail prematurely just like yours are doing because they aren't running true in their race. Try some junkyard hubs or ask on here, somebody may have a pair for sale. Will- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 If the area on the outer cv joint where the inner wheel bearing seal rides is rough, it will let water into the bearings. Also, there are 2 styles of inner wheel bearing seal, the right one should have an extra lip that sticks out and rides further up on the cv joint that acts as a dust shield. The spacer between the 2 bearings can get crushed, and will preload the bearings too much. A deformed hub bore will do the same thing, the bearings won't be properly positioned and the preload will be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Ok so I can check for out of roundness of the hub with an outside micrometer. And I should check both, where the inner bearing presses in and the outer bearing presses in... What is the allowable amount of out of roundness..... .003,.005 .007 .010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Not sure of the spec for roundness on a hub, you might want to start another post for that info as it will need to come from a factory service manual. Many people on The Board have that info but they might not be looking at this thread. You won't be able to check the hub with an outside mic as it's the inner surface you're concerned with. If you have some telescope gauges to go along with that outside mic you might be able to get away with it, but again it will depend on the tolerance given in the FSM since telescope gauges aren't all that accurate for that kind of measuring. Taking the hubs to a machine shop is really the ticket, but you could probably get a set of hubs from a JY for less then a minimum setup fee at a shop. Will- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 axle nut should be torqued to 145 ft lb. the flat washer goes on one way. make sure it is not backward. sounds like you have a axle nut/washer/torque issue. use red grease, not yellow grease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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