logang1k Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 How much are ej22t's going for now days? I have a loyale that I'm converting into a mud only offroad vehicle and I was thinking that since the mud likes horsepower that might be the motor for me if I can keep it cool. That might be a problem since I am mounting the radiator inside the cargo area to keep the rad from getting damaged and clogged with mud. I would need an awic because an air to air intercooler depending on the location would just get clogged up unless I ran an intercooler washer to flow water over it during a run to keep the intercooler clear. My clutch and tranny might not even be up to the task because I have planned on running my ea82 dual range tranny. list of current mods: 6 lug hubs from BOSS 6 lug 14" steel Nissan truck wheels 7-14 Carlisle v groove tractor tires (27.2" tires) rearend welded homemade 3" pvc snorkle front fenders removed for clearance no lift yet, but I am hoping to get a BOSS 6" lift soon interior completely stripped except front seats, shifter, steering wheel, pedals, instrument cluster and wiring plan on: using a roll on bedliner on the floors to keep the floor from rusting moving the rad to the rear with electric fans. moving the battery to the rear because the battery box is rusted thru, I can see the battery from the fender well. run the exhaust out of the hood relocate all of the vents for the tranny and rearend swapping in the dual range 5mt and new clutch that I have laying around using some old conveyor belt as a way to keep the underneath of the car more streamline to keep the suspension and steering parts from causing drag in the mud an ej swap. Hopefully an ej22t but probably an ej22 or ej25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logang1k Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 anyone have any idea what kind of tire pressure run in these tractor tires? They have a max tire pressure of 36psi. I am running 20 psi in them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondjumper Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 If possible stay away from the roll on bedliner.. I sprayed Armorthane bedliners professionally for 3 years and had countless diy roll on jobs come to me peeling off within a few weeks. -Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logang1k Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 ugh! Did they mess up the prep or do the diy kits just suck? Wonder if anyone would even spray an interior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backcountrycrui Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 In my limited experience with bed liner, the hurculiner roll on product is decent, if you prep well. But that is just like any thing else, prep will make or break you. Three beds done 7, 5, and 2 years ago, still in good shape. They did fade a bit though. The other product that I used, I cant remeber the name. I purchase it at westco auto body supply near my place. It is a little more expensive but comes with a spray gun and works perfectly. Ive used it on the outside of trucks, on wooden beds(which are way worse to spray and have last, due to the expansion and contraction of the wood), inside cabs too. I will try to find out what the product was called. It is great stuff. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 while the idea of an EJ22T in a wheeler sounds fun.It will probally be too much engine for what you need. When you say offroad/mud only rig in my mind im pictureing driving through the woods,through the local mud holes,etc. Unless you are refering to straight up mud drag/mud bog type events an NA EJ22 should serve your needs great.Think of it this way.The EJ22 is close to 2X the power of the stock engine.You've lightened the car up a bit by stripping the interior and what not.Not to mention NA EJ22's are a dime a dozen in junkyards.To date I have not seen ONE EJ22T in a junkyard.Or on the road for that matter. I converted an 87 GL wagon to EJ22.It had 205/60/15 snow tires on it,full interior,etc. it had no problems what so ever incinerating the tires in FWD.I could be driving down the road at 30 MPH in 3rd gear and punch the gas and BOTH tires would burn out.On dry pavement. Why not convert to EJ22 and see if you like the power.If you feel that you still need more power, then swap in the 2.2T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logang1k Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 you are probably right, this thing is a light weight. I am always looking for ways to make it lighter. I'm on a diet as well, hoping to lose a bit of weight before the 3rd of july when we have our annual mud bog on our farm. I think the sound of an open dp turbo would sound nice in the mud but it is overkill. But I am the king of overkill. My wrx is a crazy motor build with a vf-48 turbo (ran out of money) wrx stats: Suspension mods: STi pink wagon springs Ipd front and rear swaybars Ipd rear endlinks Noltec front endlinks Cusco rear strut tower brace Whiteline subframe lock bolts TiC Giuyngmyo Fender Cowl Braces Anti lift kit Paranoid fabrications 5 piece subframe and chassis brace kit. Driveline: Kartboy shifter Kartboy knob Kartboy f&r shifter bushings TiC shifter linkage update TiC 5MT Lever Pivot Bushings Kartboy Rear Subframe Outrigger Bushings - RACE TiC Subaru Rear Diff Mount Bushings - RACE TiC Tranny Crossmember Bushings Cusco engine and tranny mounts ACT SB3-HDMM Clutch and pressure plate ixizSclutch Braking: Hawk front pads Motul 5.1 fluid engine mods: 2005 wrx wagon with a 2.5l stage 2 raw/axis motor (forged pistons with piston coating) and balanced rotating assembly crucial Ported and polished heads supertech valves +1mm supertech springs brian crower 272/272 cams P&P&C vf-48 APS inlet aps dual vent bov custom built header Grimmspeed uppipe/38mm tial ewg crucial dp crucial catless midpipe erz catback ssac fmic crucial coated with thermal dispersant coating gimmick crank pulley cobb sf intake spec-c tgv deletes walboro fp 750cc dw injectors gmbcs Coolingmist varicool trunk mount meth injection kit with 50/50 meth/water Accessport v2 Ixizaosep Cosmetic: Scoop delete Enkei RP02 17x7.5 wheels Plastic dipped dash pieces Blacked out hvac controls Cobb battery tie down Paranoid fabrications grounding kit and grounding update. Pink “I” badge. Weight savings Spare tire and jack delete mod 45 pounds off of the driver Stereo and gauges: Mad dad clarity v2 rx egt, boost, oil pressure, water temp Innovate DB-1 wideband Arc audio 2100 amp CDT 6.5” components Cheap rump roast old pioneer mp3 player Cheap rump roast pioneer rear 5.25” speakers Not installed yet Goodridge SS brake lines Hawk f&R pads 4 pot 06-07 front brakes h6 rear brake upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domesticated Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 i have a similar question. i can get an entire legacy with a ej22t for 500 bucks thats been wrecked and i wanna put it in my 90 loyale. i was planning on just n/a but i can get the entire car with running engine for 500. i want to hook it up to a dual range tranny. is it doable to have a clutch on the ea tranny that will hold up to a bone stock 2.2t? i need to figure this out soon because the car isnt going to sit there long. i know i need the conversion kit and im gonna get it from sjr but what else am i going to need that i cant get off the totalled legacy. i need a new engine anyway and the only mods i currently have is a 3" lift. i know this is a newb thing to ask but ill keep doing research on here. any advise from someone who has dont a ej22t in a ea82 car thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) you are probably right, this thing is a light weight. I am always looking for ways to make it lighter. I'm on a diet as well, hoping to lose a bit of weight before the 3rd of july when we have our annual mud bog on our farm. I think the sound of an open dp turbo would sound nice in the mud but it is overkill. But I am the king of overkill. My wrx is a crazy motor build with a vf-48 turbo (ran out of money) You obviously know what you are doing.....go for it. i have a similar question. i can get an entire legacy with a ej22t for 500 bucks thats been wrecked and i wanna put it in my 90 loyale. i was planning on just n/a but i can get the entire car with running engine for 500. i want to hook it up to a dual range tranny. is it doable to have a clutch on the ea tranny that will hold up to a bone stock 2.2t? i need to figure this out soon because the car isnt going to sit there long. i know i need the conversion kit and im gonna get it from sjr but what else am i going to need that i cant get off the totalled legacy. i need a new engine anyway and the only mods i currently have is a 3" lift. i know this is a newb thing to ask but ill keep doing research on here. any advise from someone who has dont a ej22t in a ea82 car thanks Yes, its all possible. Read my swap. http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=110912 You will need a EA82 turbo x-member also. Edited April 21, 2010 by Turbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logang1k Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 i dont know anything and I know less everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 i dont know anything and I know less everyday. I've forgotten more than I know....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logang1k Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 i guess i'll let the decision be made by what I can find. I don't think I wanna pay to have a motor shipped and I doubt a junkyard is gonna want to take the time to give me a motor with all of the accessories and wires and ecu that I would need to make the swap work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 More food for thought.I don't know how well a red hot turbo would be with water/mud getting thrown on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logang1k Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 very good point sir. I have a spare turbo wrap kit but I wouldn't really wanna use it on this car. Do ej22t's have intercoolers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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