front axle CV question

[WASHroad]

I have a '88 GL 4WD 5 speed, will a front drive shaft/axle work that is out of a '91 Loyale, 2WD auto. I would be take the ends off the axle because it is a right hand short side, I need to replace the left hand long side. I need to know if the ends will fit my hubs and transaxle??

[nipper]

If i remember correctly from when I owned the same car, the answer is no. There was some oddness about autos and manuals having a different number of splines, which is bad enough to match up properly. Most stores dont know this or really don't care as the rbuilders dont mark the boxes properly.

 

. Loyale is a differnt animalall together.

[Gloyale]

First of all, there is no short or long side. The axles are equal length and can be used on either side. The only non symetrical subaru is the in the U.S. is the Justy. I am assuming that you have a "GL" not a "Justy GL", correct?

 

88 GL (non-turbo) will have a 23 spline stub trans. 91 Loyale should be the same. Now the Loyale axle, being 2wd auto, may have a physically smaller joint (IIRC, 82-AC instead of the 87-AC) but the splines on the inner and outer ends mate up and the axle will work fine.

 

General rule of thumb......*All Non-turbo EA82 axles will interchange.

 

*(Does not apply to late XTs)

[Rust]

Ive swapped axles from a fwd standard and fwd auto. Basically any ea82 front axle are all the same.

[nipper]

Ive swapped axles from a fwd standard and fwd auto. Basically any ea82 front axle are all the same.

 

 

*makes note and files it away*

[idosubaru]

All EA82 non-turbo front axles are interchangeable. The entire axle, even left to right they're the same. XT's are all the same as well, what's the late model XT qualifier you mention Gloyale? They are the same EA82 axles as well unless I'm forgetting something?

[Gloyale]

All EA82 non-turbo front axles are interchangeable. The entire axle, even left to right they're the same. XT's are all the same as well, what's the late model XT qualifier you mention Gloyale? They are the same EA82 axles as well unless I'm forgetting something?

 

88+ most XTs use a 25 spline.

 

Only 5 spd 2wd or P/T 4wd use the 23 spline.

 

Fulltime 4wd manual trans XTs also use 25 spline.

 

2wd and 4wd autos came with the 4EAT auto trans. 25 spline

[idosubaru]

sorry for the tangent as turbo stuff doesn't seem to matter to the original poster, but i'm confused. it's been awhile since i've done any EA stuff but I thought only EA82 turbo transmissions will go into an XT6 because of the spline count. Non-turbo EA82's and XT trans won't fit an XT6 because of the spline count....mental mix up on my part?

 

i just checked and over at subaruxt.com all XT's are lumped into EA82 stuff for spline count. they can't be used in an XT6 swap - without messing with the axles which means using those early FWD 23 spline count impreza axles to make an EA82 swap into an XT6.

Edited May 6, 2010 by grossgary

[Gloyale]

sorry for the tangent as turbo stuff doesn't seem to matter to the original poster, but i'm confused. it's been awhile since i've done any EA stuff but I thought only EA82 turbo transmissions will go into an XT6 because of the spline count. Non-turbo EA82's and XT trans won't fit an XT6 because of the spline count....mental mix up on my part?

 

The early 85, 86 and some 87 NON-TURBO trans were all 23 spline. So FWD, 4WD, automatic or manual.....doesn't matter.

 

But in 87, they introduced new transmissions, but dropped the turbo at the end of the year.

 

The 3AT was dropped and all Autos were now 4EATs

There may have been a few Non-turbo, Part time 4wd(pushbutton) cars in 88 and 89. These would be 23 spline as well. But after that, most of the 4wd were "fulltime"

 

Bottom line, any of the Subaru "fulltime" trans are 25 spline.

 

Also, 4EATs, FWD or 4wd, are all 25 spline.

 

XTs after 88 and probably alot of the 87's used 4eats for Automatics. So all of them will be 25.

 

As far as I can tell, the only 23 spline axle in ANY XTafter 88 would be on a FWD 5spd or a Pushbutton 4wd 5spd.

[WASHroad]

Thanks for the infor, I need to start a file somewhere to keep all this good stuff. I had a guy tell me the 4WD axles were different. Never even really looked at left and right being the same lenght.. guess I was stuck in the transverse fwd engine mod..