jp1gt Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I am wondering if anyone knows why early foresters have problems with front CV joints going bad. Mine is always the passengers side front. I have talked to some subaru mechanics in the area and they said, yes they go bad more than normal, but had not idea what causes it or if anything can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I know the boots go bad more often because the cat is right there, so it gets hot. But it also makes a difference of what quality axles you are putting in there. Are they new or rebuilt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstone Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 At 230k miles I've replaced all 4 axles with rebuilds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1gt Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 I have been using rebuilts. Does anyone know of a brand that has a lifetime guarantee? It only takes 1/2 hour to change one. About the only thing that I would think could cause the problem is that the transfer case is not slipping enough and binding on the axles. Never had one apart, so don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstone Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 United Drive Axle in Chicago has a lifetime warranty, but they don't ship. You have to get someone local to do it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1gt Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 I am near sacramento ca and shipping would be a pain when they go bad. we only have 85K on this one, but sold the 89 and will be driving our sunday driver all the time now!!! I will keep looking, thanks---Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I have had very good luck with NAPA Maxdrive axles. They are new and have lifetime warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1gt Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 Thank you. I will get one. The one I replaced about 5K miles ago is starting to make noise under a very light load. I have to wait until it gets worse to get some play out of the joint to tell if it is the right or left. As far as I remember it is always the outer joint.----Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 If you want an axle that's going to last more than 25k (and boots that last more than 10k ) you need to get new OEM axles from the dealer. You can expect 100k from OEM (NTN is the OEM manufacturer) units. Others are typically very inferior - even new ones. They may have a warantee but that doesn't compensate you for replacement labor, etc. I have had decent results with the EMPI axles (new, no core charge, etc) but even with them the boots aren't great quality so expect to do boot jobs every couple years at least - especially on the passenger side where the cat is located. Or you could gut the cat and install a non-fouler in the secondary O2 sensor to eliminate the ECU code as well as the heat that kills the axle boots. Seriously though - if it were mine I would totally gut the cat just to save the axle boots. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 From my experience so far the NAPA Maxdrive will last a lot longer than 25k. I have not seen one fail yet. The only issue I have see with them is on a lifted EA82, but that is pretty normal for just a strut lift. If you want an axle that's going to last more than 25k (and boots that last more than 10k ) you need to get new OEM axles from the dealer. You can expect 100k from OEM (NTN is the OEM manufacturer) units. Others are typically very inferior - even new ones. They may have a warantee but that doesn't compensate you for replacement labor, etc. I have had decent results with the EMPI axles (new, no core charge, etc) but even with them the boots aren't great quality so expect to do boot jobs every couple years at least - especially on the passenger side where the cat is located. Or you could gut the cat and install a non-fouler in the secondary O2 sensor to eliminate the ECU code as well as the heat that kills the axle boots. Seriously though - if it were mine I would totally gut the cat just to save the axle boots. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Aftermarket axles are inferior, good word GD, don't waste your time. the problem isn't with CV's or design... I've never heard of "repetitive failures" here - except just cheap aftermarket axles. they fail ALL the time. leaking grease, noises, clicking, vibration, boots coming off, clamps not tight, fail in 15,000 miles.....you name it. i even had one blow to pieces after less than a mile, caged exploded, balls rolling all over the ground. I think that was the last aftermarket axle i bought and i'm glad, they were a waste of time. MWE out of colorado is OEM quality for a great price - he's been rebuilding Subaru axles for decades. He knows subaru and supplies all the locals there (Subaru rich country by the way). Or get a good used Subaru axle and reboot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bork Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 So where is the place to get NTN or MWE axles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 So where is the place to get NTN or MWE axles? http://www.ccrengines.com/mwe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thats a very old page with his old pricing. They are $85 plus shipping and core charge. These are rebuilt units of original axles and I install at least 3 a week here. Good stuff! I can supply them, he builds them in space in my shop. Call me at 720-440-1662 or email me at shawn@retroroo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I've modified my early Brat with an old aluminum license plate mounted between the cat and axle boot on that side. Positioned so that there's good airflow over the top of the 'plate and it keeps most of the heat from the cat from destroying the inner boot. Seemed to work for me since I never had to replace that axle again. Not sure if it's still working since I sold that Brat last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bork Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thats what I was thinking of doing, cant hurt. Just gotta make sure there is no rattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have bought reman axles for my cars from Autozone, and for the most part, have been very satisfied with their rebuilds. Yea, a lot of people complain about poor after market quality, and I am sure OEM provides better quality. Still, I have had to replace only one, and AZ has a lifetime warranty. Just save your receipt, and they will replace an axle, with no questions asked. Cost for my Outback was about $60. Like you said, labor time to replace an axle is less then an hour, so swapping out is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bork Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Lifetime or limited lifetime? The dude behind counter said, "one replacement" for the lifetime, thats the limited part of it." Sorry, I'm leery, I tend to keep my stuff real long time. NAPA, I think lost $ on me, I still have my 1973 dodge van!! Lots of napa goodies! On edit: just came from Auto zone & they said, Limited Lifetime is life span of my ownership of car, & agreed that Advance Auto is only, one time replacement, for their Limited Lifetime. Edited January 20, 2012 by bork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the3rsss Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I removed all the heat shields on my 99obw. Got some header wrap and wrapped the y pipe. Any problem with wrapping the cat shield? I just replaced the pass side axel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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