kb7chd Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Hello. Thanks for the help on my frozen engine which is still frozen. Another concern I have, however, is that the car was towed with all four wheels on the ground for eleven miles. This according to the guy I bought it from. My Haynes manual says this car cannot be towed more than six miles! I assume this means the transmission is ruined also. If so, I am wondering if it is worth messing with this thing. I would have to replace the tranny and the engine. I paid $400 for the car. The body is straight and the interior is clean. It would be a nice car but... Any thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Probably fine......not great for it......but it's most likely still working. Did you get the engine to rotate? was it hydrolocked? that would eb my guess if the crankcase was full of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 not ideal but probably fine, i agree. i'd just roll with it. yours is an auto, not sure which are more forgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobieryan Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Its probably fine, but even if it is broken you can get another tranny at PAP for like 50 bucks. So id saw its worth it either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skishop69 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 As long as it was not towed above say 40mph, it should be ok. What happens is the trans pump isn't running so there's no fluid going to the bushings/bearings and as a result the burn up when being towed. I've towed autos father than that (stop and go) and kept the speed down and they were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb7chd Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Thanks for the comments. Still trying to free the engine by putting penetrating fluid (Free All) in each cylinder and using a two foot pipe wrench, with a four foot pipe extension, on a socket on the crankcase bolt. Nothing yet, and I have not broken the socket, and I will keep at it the next few days. Would it help maybe to fill each cylinder with diesel or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 More to the point on the 4wd automatics, the rear-transfer function is performed by a clutch pack, where half the plates will be rotating with the rear wheels and the other half will be affected by plate drag w/o lubricant... maybe turning some, maybe not. Speed and distance matter, but I have abused a 3AT at 55mph for 40 miles and it still worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jboymechanic Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'm restoring a '56 Chrysler that sat in the dirt in my grandpa's barn for 40 years. Engine was blown when it was parked and had been rusting since(the oil pan was filled with tar like goo that used to be oil). I pulled the engine and filled each cylinder with diesel fuel until in spilled out the spark plug hole or out the exhaust. I checked on it every week or so to see if I could break it free, finally after 8 months it did. I guess I'm saying that the diesel should work for you depending on how stuck it is because my engine was about as bad as it could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb7chd Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 All right, the engine turns and TC bolts removed!!! Thanks for all the suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor pole Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 diesel fuel will work. built a 218 flathead six cyl out of a 1950 dodge B1 pickup and had the same problem, diesel fuel freed it after about a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 More to the point on the 4wd automatics, the rear-transfer function is performed by a clutch pack, where half the plates will be rotating with the rear wheels and the other half will be affected by plate drag w/o lubricant... maybe turning some, maybe not. Speed and distance matter, but I have abused a 3AT at 55mph for 40 miles and it still worked. He said the car was flat towed, all 4 on the ground. So in that case there should have been minimal movement between the 2 sets of plates. Both should have been spinning the same amount except for the differnence in turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 He said the car was flat towed, all 4 on the ground. So in that case there should have been minimal movement between the 2 sets of plates. Both should have been spinning the same amount except for the differnence in turning. Thanks, I missed the "flat tow" part. My comment was more for a tow dolly situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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