WJM Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 Well, due to the seemingly unavoidable end of the engine in the GL-10, more on that later...i was in search of a SPFI auto sube...well, there were two options. 1988 GL 4WD, auto push button. Had some deep rust in some spot on the fender wells, no radio, an XT rad and it overheats. Dont remember miles, above 100k tho. $500. 1989 DL 2wd auto. suprisingly, everything was there. 77k miles, one owner. $130. Well, after getting the DL running and checking it out...power steering is DEAD, its got these 145/70 tires on it...ROFL...and its only running on about 2-4 cyls at any given time. Reason...the 1-3 side's T-belt is 2 or 3 teeth off! Easy fix. Disty cap is not on correct. Easy. I've got new wires, plugs, cap and rotor laying around. Oh, and an accell coil as well. So, i went with the DL, it was also close to home, so i drove it there...looking at it...its the biggest ugliest POS you will ever see. the hood is pretty mangled, the tires look like crap being all skinny, the rear dampers are worn the sensored word out, as i said the power steering is dead, and the interior is a mess. But, the trans is sound, the HVLAs dont tick, and with the t belt adjusted, those RX parts thrown on the ignition, its good to go...and some new fuids, and maybe bypass the PS all together. So, add it to the list. 1989 DL Wagon 2WD Auto SPFI. Mod plans? Yes. A cone filter, and glass pack. thats it! its the Daily beater, looks like one too, and i am aiming to get some HIGH HIGH MPGs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROGDOR! Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 Originally posted by WJM i am aiming to get some HIGH HIGH MPGs... Not to sound like an rump roast, but with an auto, fahgeddaboutit. Not unless you cruise at 55 on the highway. Those trannies simply don't have enough gearing to get good gas mileage. They strain to pull the car's weight in the city, and rev like hell on the highway. If you want to keep it automatic, since it's 2WD, a turbo tranny would be a big help for highway cruising. I'm sure some people have squeezed high gas mileage out of them, but I've owned 4 and have never broken 24mpg. Had an 89 SPFI 4WD, 86 SPFI 2WD, 87 Turbo 4WD, and 92 SPFI 4WD. Every one of them was pretty dissapointing- which is why this weekend I'm doing away with the auto in the 92, and will dispose of the auto in the 87 this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted February 26, 2004 Author Share Posted February 26, 2004 i had a turbo auto, on my turbo wagon. got 24 mpg. I dont think there are any differences in gearing. lets check... GL-10 turbo 2wd 1st 2.821 2nd 1.559 3rd 1.000 3.454 final with a 0.933 reduction Seems as if DLs were not offered in 1986 with an auto, but the GLs were, and i bet the 1989 DLs use the same trans. Same gearing, but with a 0.974 reduction as opposed to 0.933. Remembering RPMs between my GL-10 back in the day, and a 1991 Loyale i drove once, the RPM difference looking at the gearing seems right. The RPMs will be similar to the RX at speed, vs the DL now. Oh, my GL-10 has the same as RX gearing as well. something like 3400 at 70. I remeber the GL-10 turbo 2wd auto trans giving the same numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 3400 at 70 Hmm.. My 88 auto 2wd Gl-10 sat at 4000 at 70 mph.. weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 this was the high compression turbo wagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROGDOR! Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 There IS a difference between NA and turbo trannys. The final drive on the NA is 3.9, turbo is 3.7. My NA auto trannys all ran 4000rpm at 70mph, the turbo ran about 3400. Around here the speed limit is 70, plus with all these hills we have... makes having a 3 speed auto no fun at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailgatewagon Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 you want MPG out of it and keep it a trany put a 2wd 4speed auto in it(if they ever made one), my 4eat turbo wagon pulls 2000 somthing at 75mph. in fact with the cruse on it isnt in the power band at 80mph enough to keep it going in 4th gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROGDOR! Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 3AT to 4AT swaps don't work. The 4AT requires a trans computer and a wiring harness as big around as a silver dollar. It may not even be possible to equip a car with one that didn't have it originally; I doubt anyone knows exactly what all extra electronics it needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 you would need to make a bellhousing to fit a 4eat 2wd to a ea motor. but with the work involved, you may as well go the other way, ej22 to ea tranny with all my leftover ej22 wiring harness, i am going to cut out and isolate the TCU and its harness, i could live with an ej22 2wd auto conversion for something else if my trashwagon ej22 to 5spd doesnt hold up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted February 26, 2004 Author Share Posted February 26, 2004 TROGDOR!: 3.454 final and there is a reduction on autos. The output for the rear is 3.70 or 3.90, but this is not a 4wd trans. MilesFox: Ive never seen any EA82 trans have a diffent bell housing than anyother EA82 trans. Full time, or 4wd, or otherwise....so the 4EAT would bolt right up. its the wiring that is supposidly the mess. Im gonna get a tach and see where the RPMs are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 if ya wanted a nice wagon all ya had to do is ask.. theres still this mint 88 gl wagon 2wd auto in the junkyard for $350.. bad trans.. anyways, my 88 gl 4wd auto wagon runs 4k rpms at 65 down the highway.. but i'm bettin thats due to a trans thats about ready to fall out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagonsOnly Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 The 4EAT was an option on 89 GL and GL-10 touring wagons, according to Edmunds. (But who knows how reliable they are?) XT GL models'88 and later also had the 4EAT with a naturally-aspirated engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 Well, its back in time just like it should have been in 1989. Its got a coolant leak..small tho, and needs intake gaskets done. Air leak on the 1-3 side. I bet thats the coolant leak too...and the slight coolant in the exh. Otherwise, change the fluids, some TLC here and there...and its ready to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Originally posted by WJM MilesFox: Ive never seen any EA82 trans have a diffent bell housing than anyother EA82 trans. Full time, or 4wd, or otherwise....so the 4EAT would bolt right up. its the wiring that is supposidly the mess. i forgot to mention that it was an EJ 4spd 23d, which i have, and the harness for, in reference to installing sich a trans and having to swap in the wiring and TCU for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 Ah. Adapter plate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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