Subie86GL Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I bought this legacy L from a guy said it needed a new coil i checked to see if i got spark it does! changed the plugs they were bad.. wires changed old ones were bad.. fuel filter was horriable.. Now It starts to turn over better after that IDK why.. but it still won't fire up but every so often i will get a back fire through the intake.. we checked the timing on the gears timing looks great! so im lost.. could it be a Crankshaft Positioning Sensor?!? cause that damn thing cost a lot of money.. Anyone know?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstone Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Getting a check engine light? You'll have to get the codes OBD1 style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Will it try to start with supplemental fuel? (e.g. - starting fluid or a splash of gas.) A failed/failing fuel pump is a possibility, especially considering what sounds like a clogged fuel filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I am thinking this car hasn't run for a long time, so it prolly has some pretty skunky gas left in the tank. Really bad gas makes for a car that may not start. I don't have a solution for bad gas in the tank, but maybe someone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacyork Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 if you have bad gas in the tank you could syphon. or you could disconnect the fuel line and bridge the fuel pump relay to keep it pumping without turning the car over. let the pump push the fuel out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 if you have bad gas in the tank you could syphon. or you could disconnect the fuel line and bridge the fuel pump relay to keep it pumping without turning the car over. let the pump push the fuel out Bridging the fuel pump relay is a great idea to pump out old gas. Just don't let the pump run more then 10-20 seconds when the tank is empty. Fuel is used to cool the pump when in operation. You don't want to chance ruining the fuel pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacyork Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 thanks rooster2 forgot to mention that part. fuel pumps dont like air very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacyork Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 even tho your timing belt is lined up it might be worth getting a timing light on it to see when its sparking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Loyale Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Normally, the only time these ever backfire through the intake is when the timing is off. I'd double check that belt. Also, on a 94, it may still have the two drains on either side of the gas tank. Look on the bottom of the tank. First thing you should always do with a no start is check for codes. It's quick and easy, let the car tell you what's wrong if it knows. Always do that before throwing parts at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie86GL Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 I tried to do a Code Read but nothing fun happened... I got under the dash and both green connectors (left) and Black connectors (right) were plugged in color to color i tried to do the green to black connectors and the CEL just kept blinking am i doing something wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I tried to do a Code Read but nothing fun happened... I got under the dash and both green connectors (left) and Black connectors (right) were plugged in color to color i tried to do the green to black connectors and the CEL just kept blinking am i doing something wrong?? you do not want the green or the black diagnostic connectors connected when driving. unplug them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie86GL Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 they aren't connected i replaced the Crank Angle Sensor and the firing order got better.. BUT... the plugs were soaked with gas... i cleaned them up and letting them dry i think i might have a slightly bad gas.. Tomorrow im gunna try to start it with Starting fluid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 it doesn't sound like a fuel problem. have you checked the timing marks on the cams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie86GL Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Yup all is perfect tried to use starting fluid and it just backfired out of the intake and caught fire LOL... so idk what to do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 even tho your timing belt is lined up it might be worth getting a timing light on it to see when its sparking. i have skimmed back through the posts and i don't see where this has been confirmed. did i miss it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Yup all is perfect tried to use starting fluid and it just backfired out of the intake and caught fire LOL... so idk what to do.. these cars do not back fire when the timing is right. the intake valves are closed before the fuel and spark are combined. tell us how you checked the timing. what timing marks did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstone Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 That wasn't backfire. That was the starter fluid catching fire. I did the same a few days ago on a ford i was fixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Your Timing belt is LIKELY not on the marks right check your timing sir. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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