Crawlerdan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ive got a 91 wagon with forester gr2s, and big tires, no lift otherwise. when loaded with weight or i hit a big bump, tires kiss body not a big deal, and it doesnt happen enough to care about, but i am planning a 3k mile drive with the whole family and gear- so it will happen frequently on my trucks ive added a simple air shock, add air= increased carrying capacity i want to do the same to teh legacy- like weld on mounts to the lower a arm, and make a bracket at teh body to hold teh other end. anyone done something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 if you hit a big bump and it bottoms out then it sounds like something is wrong with the suspension. is there any hope of properly adjusting/tweaking the suspension? some early legacy's came with an air suspension that is self leveling. those struts would swap right in and would be easy to add a fitting to fill them with compressed air. i have the opposite on one of my XT6's right now - air suspension up front and rear coil overs. others have done different variations as needed. you could even install the compressor (front drivers side fender is stock location on the XT6 and probably the legacy) and run a toggle switch to just control the height yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick350X Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 You can get air bag to do the same thing, they would go inside the springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 its not bottoming out, i have 225 70 16s on it...big rump roast tire it rubs the rear bumper i want to add air shocks to provide more capacity during loaded periods, to prevent this from happening. all the suspension is BRAND new, i just chose to install a very large tire with minimal lift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 i want to add these, in addition to the factory stut and spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 cool, do it. never heard of anyone doing that on a subaru, they do it on trucks all the time. i'm sure you thought about and ruled out a 1/2" or 1" lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 You can get air bag to do the same thing, they would go inside the springs. what springs? in the main springs??....theres a strut rod in there if i had 1 inch spacers for the strut tops it would probably be ok i still want air springs for adjustability though....ill go into engineer mode tommorow and finger it out:grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 If you did that, you'd need to gut out the original struts or something, otherwise your rear end will be hopelessly overdampened. That could be very dangerous. An easier way would be to use old worn out struts and shocks -- then the sum of the damping might be about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 BFH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 There is no place that has enough clearance for them to be mounted. Alos if you overload a car air shocks wont really help as they blow through whatever metal you weld them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 ok- nipper hit the nail on the head, theer just plain is no room for a finger, let alone roon for me to finger it out> so- who, if anyone, makes a strut top spacer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 ok- nipper hit the nail on the head, theer just plain is no room for a finger, let alone roon for me to finger it out> so- who, if anyone, makes a strut top spacer? some one make a 1" spacer, i think a set of 4?, cost 245$. the link was posted on here. i'd google legacy strut lift spacers. is the forester rear strut as long a an outback rear strut?? i hear forester springs on outback struts will lift it a little in the rear, i think i remember reading that. found it: http://www.subtle-solutions.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_25_89_90&products_id=107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 forester and outback struts are the same but i cant use those springs in my wagon, i need a tapered spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 i looked at subtle- i know they will work in the front, but not sure, but i dont think they will work in the rear any conformation there>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 i looked at subtle- i know they will work in the front, but not sure, but i dont think they will work in the rear any conformation there>? they should, lots of folks have put outback struts on 91 legos. but if your tire is rubbing the strut they will not help. if the tire is rubbing the car body, it will give yyou another 1". where is it rubbing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 it just barely kisses the mud flap on severe loading...like i hit a speed hump doing 45mph but that will increase when i put the whole family and gear in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) it just barely kisses the mud flap on severe loading...like i hit a speed hump doing 45mph but that will increase when i put the whole family and gear in it i don't think GTs come with mud flaps, remove them. it may be cheaper to change the tires than to lift the car. Edited November 22, 2010 by johnceggleston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 mine is an l, not a gt, it had the flaps, i just removed them, trimed teh rear bumper area, i could jump it now with no rub, problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Scott and others on here make lift kits, SJR is Scotts and I like my lift kit i bought from him. He had to sort of custom make me a set and it's fantastic. I'm sure he'd just get you a 1" (or whatever you want) rear lift for your struts assuming they do the same strut top extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 well, the car is lifted a little, i have forester struts and front springs, as well as forester trailing arms everything works perfectly, and im quite happy with how it sits, i dont really want to go any higher the issue was-slight rubbing under severe bumps- most of the time not a big deal- what i wanted to prevent was the whole family and gear in the car-it would have happened alot more, and pissed me off. the rubbing was only in the last 25% of suspension travel., but when loaded would have been far more noticable problem solved now, i could put a larger tire on now with no issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 you fixed it - how? an inch or....would a half inch even help, you could probably find the smallest amount needed and not even notice it changing the looks/ride height any significant amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 i just removed the flap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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