idosubaru Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Need to install a couple bolts through the rear trunk bottom on a 96 Legacy, about one inch behind the rear seats. Is the gas tank right up against the sheet metal back there? Will I have access from underneath to install a capture nut from underneath? I'm sure that metals thin so it's not going to be adequate for threaded itself, i'll need a bolt behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 If its anything like my 93 Imp, the gas tank is under the back seat and partially past the upper shelf into the trunk. No access underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Need to install a couple bolts through the rear trunk bottom on a 96 Legacy, about one inch behind the rear seats. Is the gas tank right up against the sheet metal back there? Will I have access from underneath to install a capture nut from underneath? I'm sure that metals thin so it's not going to be adequate for threaded itself, i'll need a bolt behind it. i would think there is enough room for the nut. if you pop open the access panel in the floor of the trunk for the fuel sending unit you'll see the space available and how far it extends. as i recall there was about 1 - 2 inches in depth, but i don't remember if it was just in that area or how far it extends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 YES! you guys are the bomb, thanks rob and john. it'll be nearly identical to the impreza rob so that saves me from wasting time underneath. the access hole may be a work around. i recall seeing a plate with 3 screws close to the back seats on the drivers side, is that it? if there's enough room i can tack weld a bolt to a thin steel plate and fish it where i need it, that would work perfectly. thanks guys. i'll post pictures of what i'm doing if it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 YES! you guys are the bomb, thanks rob and john. it'll be nearly identical to the impreza rob so that saves me from wasting time underneath. the access hole may be a work around. i recall seeing a plate with 3 screws close to the back seats on the drivers side, is that it? if there's enough room i can tack weld a bolt to a thin steel plate and fish it where i need it, that would work perfectly. thanks guys. i'll post pictures of what i'm doing if it works out. There should be 2 plates if it is a 4wd car. That would make for ideal access for the nut on a stick manuver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) If I recall, theres not much room between the tank and sheet metal. Theres about 1.5in, making it difficult even going thru the access plates. Heres a scary pic..... Edited November 22, 2010 by Turbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Copy that, will check for clearance. It's an LSi and sits really low to the ground so really tight clearance seems likely. It is a 4WD chasis (the one i converted to FWD). I would think that floor metal is to thin for just welding a nut to it. I know it would stick but doubt it has much capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankosolder2 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 What are you bolting down back there? Is this some crazy car seat mounting scheme? (Just curious!) Nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 i was wondering , in stead of a 2'' mounting with a bolt, how about something 10'' or 12 '' with a dozen pop rivets. at some point lots of little things add up to one big thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 What are you bolting down? Could you try making a couple brackets and attaching it to the seat belt mounting bolts under the rear seat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Heres a scary pic..... Fun things to do with a can opener when you're feeling bored! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 That wasnt boredom Ed. That had to be done (Didnt want to drop the rear susp in order to drop tank) because the PO had used long screws to install cable to run his under glow kit. I had to patch 4 holes in the tank.........what a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 That wasnt boredom Ed. That had to be done (Didnt want to drop the rear susp in order to drop tank) because the PO had used long screws to install cable to run his under glow kit. I had to patch 4 holes in the tank.........what a moron Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 i was hoping to avoid getting flamed. i should find a car safety seat forum to post this in! i'm installing brackets from a newer Legacy with LATCH attachments on them so we can use LATCH to install child seats in my Legacy LSi instead of seat belts. My horrific ghetto job will be safer than the lame seat belt installations. The brackets have two holes, one will line up with the seat belt bolt holes and the other is up top and lies flush on the bottom of the trunk floor - this is where I need to bolt it too. But I need more than that thin metal to work with so I was hoping to have a long flat steel bar under there. Rob's showing us there's not much room to work with. I've never done pop rivets before, have no idea how they work. That's what the aircraft engineers use for repairs. I'll call up my friends that design repairs for the airline companies. Seems there would still be the gas tank in the way issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 wow rob, what a job! want to do it again!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankosolder2 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What's lame about securing car seats with seat belts? (Aside from Subaru making the clasp side of the seat belt so long that it makes it difficult to get a good fit?) I think I've mentioned this before in other discussions we've had about the LATCH system, but most cars & car seats have a higher allowed weight rating when the car seats are affixed with the regular seat belts vs. LATCH- that implies that it's stronger way of attaching them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 i was hoping to avoid getting flamed. . Never want to disapoint.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Need to install a couple bolts through the rear trunk bottom on a 96 Legacy, about one inch behind the rear seats. Is the gas tank right up against the sheet metal back there? Will I have access from underneath to install a capture nut from underneath? I'm sure that metals thin so it's not going to be adequate for threaded itself, i'll need a bolt behind it. Doesnt this usually start with... "Here hold my beer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) What's lame about securing car seats with seat belts?sorry for the word choice, LATCH is a better fit for us. you partially answered it for me though:(Aside from Subaru making the clasp side of the seat belt so long that it makes it difficult to get a good fit?) though i can get it to work, in my opinion it should be easier and simpler. my wife pretty much can't do it...the grand parents would fare even worse. with multiple vehicles, kids, travel, etc it's more dynamic than install it and leave it. LATCH is what I want and what we will have, I accept all responsibility and risk. Edited November 23, 2010 by grossgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Doesnt this usually start with... "Here hold my beer" okay that deserves story time. my neighbors are awesome. they keep me in touch with other parts of the world. when I mentioned "i'm not much on beer" they replied with "awwwwww HELL, they let you live here!!!"? this summer i was walking my daughter down the road and my neighbor and his buddy walk to a motorcycle each with a beer in his hand. the driver hands his beer to the rider, they both hop on the same motorcycle with the passenger holding both hands outstretched to the side with a beer in each hand and take off down the road. it was amazing. last summer my other neighbor asked if he could take some kids fishing on my property. went down to their place later to see how they made out and they pulled in when i got to their place - he was driving with a beer in his hand, beer cans everywhere, and two roughly 12 year old boys in the back. got out and popped his can of budlight right on top of his car like the term "drinking and driving" didn't even exist. same budlight cans i've hit 50 times with my Kubota when i mow up against the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) when I mentioned "i'm not much on beer" they replied with "awwwwww HELL, they let you live here!!!"? Better not tell them you don't like weed or acetone then. But I need more than that thin metal to work with so I was hoping to have a long flat steel bar under there. Well I assume that since you have the brackets you got them from a junked car (can't imagine ordering those from a dealer but I could be wrong?) Do you happen to still have access to said car to drop the fuel tank or move it so you an get an idea of what goes under that part of the floor where the brackets bolt on? Edited November 23, 2010 by Fairtax4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Thats the problem right there! Bud light! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 you an get an idea of what goes under that part of the floor where the brackets bolt on?my 02 OBW has LATCH so I've seen that and some others too. the center two are just welded to the metal, that's it. not much to it, just a metal rod welded right to the floor meatl. that's how all of the subaru's i've seen so far do it for the center the side ones can look a little different but are either included in the design of or are welded to the seat bracket which bolts in place on the sides of the car. i removed the side seat brackets from the seats and want to bolt them in place. i'm installing side brackets that have the bar already on them, into the center position. so you end up bringing up a good point, look at the side attach points. i don't feel comfortable welding that bracket in there. maybe GD will do it for me?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 i don't feel comfortable welding that bracket in there. maybe GD will do it for me?! enjoy the drive, don't forget the beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now