EA82T replacin a EA82

[bratclay]

I was wonderin if ne1 has done a na ea82 to a turbo ea82t. The car is a 91 loyale wit ea82 spfi. I was wantin to put a ea82t in it. I know the engin harness and ecm frm the ea82t go to be put in but wht bout the harness on the body side? Also is ther anything else I would need to change I think I read sumthin bout the cross member for the tranny cuz of the downpipe? Anything else. Thanks for all ur guys help.

Thanks subi gang

[MilesFox]

you can haz ea82 t, but you need to swap the whole engine harness form the dash forward., and use the engine crossmember from the turbo car to allow room for the up-pipe.

 

drop the text message grammar if you want anyone else to answer your questions.

 

other than that, if you have a comlete car to part frm, you will have all the parts.

 

the turbo engine fits against the non turbo trans, uses same flywheel and clutch.

 

a turbo trans will swap in all plug and play, but you will need turbo axles.

 

there are a few trim diffeerences. you can just swap in the turbo motor, but you can go as far as swapping to full turbo spec, with digi dash and all the trim.

 

for the effort, people wil tell you to swap an ej22. But at least with what you are asing, you can do the swap with no customization or modifying, since you are just replacing old factory parts with different factory parts that fit like they came from the factory.

[bratclay]

Thanks man. Sorry bout the text grammer all I hav is my blackberry for internet right now. There is a turbo car being parted out. Was just seeing if it was worth the change. She wants to keep her automatic tranny will it still work?

[idosubaru]

you can keep the auto trans, that doesn't matter.

all the wiring, ECU, etc would need done and the crossmember needs swapped for the turbo stuff to clear. you'd need all the turbo and exhaust components in the engine bay.

 

i think about it for a bit. it's a ton of work for a tiny amount of horsepower, way more maintenance, and less reliable engine. the EA82T's are known for all sorts of issues - compounded due to their age and dire need of maintenance - hoses, turbo's, cooling, cracked heads, etc.

 

an EJ22 swap would be the way to go....less work, way more power, way more reliability, way better gas mileage. but i realize that's not a good fit for everyone too.

 

the only compelling factor to go with an EA82T is also a reason not to do it all. if it's because of price...then money is a concern. if that's the case then the last thing you want is a more expensive to maintain motor that has reliability issues and a large amount of catastrophic failures.

Edited December 3, 2010 by grossgary

[Gloyale]

you can haz ea82 t, but you need to swap the whole engine harness form the dash forward., and use the engine crossmember from the turbo car to allow room for the up-pipe.

 

drop the text message grammar if you want anyone else to answer your questions.

 

other than that, if you have a comlete car to part frm, you will have all the parts.

 

the turbo engine fits against the non turbo trans, uses same flywheel and clutch.

 

a turbo trans will swap in all plug and play, but you will need turbo axles.

 

there are a few trim diffeerences. you can just swap in the turbo motor, but you can go as far as swapping to full turbo spec, with digi dash and all the trim.

 

for the effort, people wil tell you to swap an ej22. But at least with what you are asing, you can do the swap with no customization or modifying, since you are just replacing old factory parts with different factory parts that fit like they came from the factory.

 

The connectors on the harness are different on digidash (GL-10)cars.... you can't just swap the bulkhead wiring.....it doesn't plug into the rest of the car. Totally different connectors.

 

Now if you got a harness from an 88 or 89 regular GL turbo (not GL-10 or digidash) then you could do a complete harness swap.

 

That said.....it's not worth it.

 

EJ22 swap would be SO much better. Heck, with a loyale, with S/R trans, you could split the case, and put the guts in an EJ trans case and not even need an adapter plate.

[bratclay]

Thanks guys for all your help. I think ill just scratch that idea. I do wanta put a ej22 in her car. I know it would be more power and better mpgs. I just don't have on or the harness for one or a 4eat tranny. Which I would rather her have 4sp better then 3sp

[MilesFox]

The connectors on the harness are different on digidash (GL-10)cars.... you can't just swap the bulkhead wiring.....it doesn't plug into the rest of the car. Totally different connectors.

 

Now if you got a harness from an 88 or 89 regular GL turbo (not GL-10 or digidash) then you could do a complete harness swap.

 

That said.....it's not worth it.

 

EJ22 swap would be SO much better. Heck, with a loyale, with S/R trans, you could split the case, and put the guts in an EJ trans case and not even need an adapter plate.

 

On the contrary, you would have to locate the ej parts, buy a bellhousing adapter, and manually chop a harness or have one do it for you, or find someone that sells them with your core exchange. This would cost money to accomplish a swap, inless you had a legacy or impreza donor car , and drilled the flywheel and fabbed an adapter.

 

on the contrary, you already have a turbo car for parts. You can use the engine harness, because you can use the dashboard or its harness loom to make the swap. If you have a complete donor, then you have ALL the parts you will need.

 

This will cost you nothing, unless you are paying for the complete donor car, and for its cost.

 

one way or the other, you can still chop down the ea82t harness as a standalone, or swap it in as it is, and make the chops into the dash harness.

 

With my experiences in parting/building/mixing and matching subarus, there is the engine harness, the dash harness, and the body harness.

 

you will have an engine harness based on the engine. There would be carb for 85-87, spfi for 86, spfi for 87, and spfi for 88+, 85/86 turbo mpfi, 87 turbo and mpfi, 88 turbo and spfi save for egr or not, and either of the same for spider intake with the harness on the spider intake itself being specific, but plug-in with the underhood harness.

 

For dashboard there would be 85/86 87, and 88+ with variables being digi dash (mpfi turbo)

 

For the entirety of the GL and Loyale line form 85/86, 87, and 88-94, all of the power and acessory circuits are contained in the main harnesses(dash), and whatever the particular car has for options will be plugged into this harness in whatever configuration. The exception to this will be the DL which does not have unused options' circuitry in the harness.

 

The third part of the harness will be relative to Sedan, Wagon, or Coupe

 

If you go with the swap, pull the left fender, the dash, and you will have plenty access to mix'n'match

[bratclay]

Thank you for your help. Thanks kinda what I was thinkin but no I don't have the donor car. I was goin to get parts off the car but it would cost me. It would be dif if I had the car myself.

[MilesFox]

yeah, you would bebetter off making an offer on the whole car. anything around 2-300 is better than what the scrapyard would give for the car, if your friend ultimately decides to junk it.

[Gloyale]

On the contrary, you would have to locate the ej parts, buy a bellhousing adapter, and manually chop a harness or have one do it for you, or find someone that sells them with your core exchange. This would cost money to accomplish a swap, inless you had a legacy or impreza donor car , and drilled the flywheel and fabbed an adapter.

 

 

This swap is for a Loyale w/ Single range 5spd.

 

If you get a whole legacy or imp donor car, w/ manual trans, you DON"T NEED AN ADAPTER PLATE OR REDRILLED FLYWHEEL.

 

pull the EA S/R trans, and the EJ trans. Split the cases. Put the EA shafts and front diff into the EJ case halves. Bolt the S/R tailsection onto the back.

 

Install in the car ussing EJ flywheel, and EJ clutch.

 

No adapter, no redrilled flywheel. No rewiring or axle or driveline issues as everything stays the same except the bellhousing mating.

 

*note* this will not work with D/R trans because of the the differences in the input shaft between D/R and the S/R 4wd or AWD boxes*

 

 

 

duh>>>>Car is an automatic, 3at. Oops........well the S/R to EJ box swap works.....just not applicable here. oops

Edited December 4, 2010 by Gloyale