91 subaru Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Can anyone guess the year of this car. This is what the ad said: 87? Subaru 4WD No title or key. Ran when parked, was told needs brake work and exhaust was noisy. New tires (13"), needs cleaning, not pretty. Im guessing 90 or 91... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john in KY Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Open the driver's door and the data/manufactured date will be found. Are you sure it has 13" tires. Seems very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91 subaru Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 I dont have the car. belongs to someone else. Sorry i should have put that in there The ad says new thirteen inch tires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) '89 or older - it's got a Dual Range. Specifically it's an '87 to '89 because of the dash and steering wheel style.... and lack of automatic belts..... hard to say which of those years as they were all very similar. 13" wheels and tires are standard on all EA series vehicles. Anything larger is VERY rare. A few examples have been found but they literally number less than a dozen sets that I've witnessed as factory EA wheels or optional wheels. Pug's not included of course.... GD Edited March 18, 2011 by GeneralDisorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91 subaru Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks for your time john and general disorder. If its got a duel range im gonna buy it. I can get it pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john in KY Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Only glanced at the 1st photo and thought 1st gen Legacy which explains my wheel size question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91 subaru Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 Can anyone do a vin check for me? JF2AN53B3HE452296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 This car is a 1987 with gl-10 seats. the steering wheel is 1987 specific. 85-86 was more squarish, and 88 thru the loyale had the long horizontal middle, the dildoey steering wheel. 1987 is somewhat specific to its year, as this was a tansition year. The wiring harness is schematically similar to a 1988, but has connectors similar to a 1986. The sensors and distributor are compatible with 86. by 88, the design remained considtent through the 1994 loyale. The instruments have a green illumination. if you replace your engine, the harness form the intake will swap over to an 88+ manifold, and the manifold itself swaps. The connector for the engine harness is similar to 1986. If you use a motor from 88 or later, you need your original intake, or at least swap your87 harness to the 88+ intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91 subaru Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 Great info. so the car has had the seats replaced? I hope it isnt stolen. Its cheap and the guy lost the title and the keys:-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 The GL-10 was the luxo trim package, and the seats were more plush with velour and the buttons, where the regular gl had more of a tweedish type fabric. the gl-10 seat has a height adjust lever on the side. pulls up or down, extends for leveage. Check the vin plates from the dash and the door sill. what is the build date? can the dude produce a title, or is this a parts car? Subaru Vehicle Identification Decoder Look up your vin number online First 3 Digits JF1 Passenger Vehicle JF2 Multi-Purpose Passenger Vehicle (MPV) Fourth Digit Model Line A Subaru XT and Loyale K Subaru J Line Fifth Digit Body Type A Justy B 4-dr 81-84 C 4-dr 85-89 F HatchBack 81-89 G 3-dr Coupe 86-89 K Touring Wagon 89 M Wagon 81-84 N Wagon 85-89 R Brat 81 T Brat 82-85 U Brat 86-87 W Hardtop 81-84 X XT 85-89, XT6 88-89 Sixth Digit Engine Type 1 1300 2 1600 3 1600 4wd 4 1800 5 1800 w/o air suspension 7 1800 4wd with air suspension 8 2700 9 2700 4wd with air suspension Seventh Digit Model Designation 1 STD Hatchback 2 DL 3 GL 81-90, RS, Justy 4 GLF 81-82, GL-10 85-89, Xt6 88-89 5 86 Turbo, GL-10 Turbo 87-89, GL full-time 4wd 3-door 87 6 Turbo RX 7 GL Turbo 87-89 Eighth Digit Weight Class and Restraint Type A Less then 3000 lbs GVWR B 3001-4000 lbs GVWR with Passive Restraint 1 Less then 3000 lbs GVWR 2 3001-4000 lbs GVWR with Passive Restrain Ninth Digit Check Digit Tenth Digit Vehicle Model Year A 4spd MT B 5spd MT C 3AT D 4spd 4wd MT 81-84 D 5spd 4wd MT 85-89 E 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat E 5spd 4wd Dual Range MT 85-89 F 3AT 4wd G Full Time 4wd MT H 4EAT Full Time 4wd 4 4spd 4wd 87 Hatchback Last Digits 002001 & after Touring Wagon 100001 & after Hatchback 200001 & after 4 Door Sedan 300001 & after Hardtop 81,84, XT, XT6 400001 & after Wagon 500001 & after Brat 700001 & after Justy 800001 & after 3-Door Subaru VIN code Position Sample Description 1 4 World Manufacturer Identifier 2 S 3 4 4 B Line type 5 T Body style 6 6 Engine type 7 1 Model identifier 8 C Restraint type 9 X Check digit 10 3 Model year 11 7 Plant of manufacturer & transmission type 12 1 Sequential number 13 0 14 8 15 3 16 8 17 5 Line types The line type is specified in character four of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description A Alcyone/XT/XT6 B Legacy/Baja C Alcyone SVX G Impreza S Forester Body styles The body style is specified in character five of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description C Impreza Sedan D Legacy Sedan E Legacy Sedan F Impreza & Forester Wagon G Legacy Wagon (Outback models) K Legacy Wagon M Impreza Coupe P Outback Wagon T Baja X XT/SVX Coupe Engine types The engine type is specified in character six of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description 2 1800cc FWD 3 3300cc AWD 4 2200cc AWD 6 2500cc AWD 8 3000cc FWD Models The model is identified in character seven of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description 1 Base 2 Brighton 3 L 5 LS/S 6 LSi 7 GT/RS 8 Outback/Sus 9 Postal Vehicle Restraint types The restraint type is specified as character eight of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description 2 Automatic Seat Belt without Air Bag 5 Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags 6 Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags C Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger, Curtain and Side Air Bags Plants and transmission types The plant and transmission type is specified in character eleven of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Plant Transmission 6 SIA AWD MT5 5/R 7 SIA AWD 4EAT 8 SIA AWD 4EAT (Postal) C FHI FWD 4EAT G FHI AWD MT5 5/R H FHI AWD 4EAT SIA=Subaru-Isuzu of America FHI=Fuji Heavy Industries Subaru WMIs WMI Country Description Vehicle Types JF1 Japan Fuji Heavy Industries Passenger Vehicle 4S3 USA Subaru-Isuzu of America Passenger Vehicle 4S4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Perfect write-up and and very clear. The GL-10 was the luxo trim package, and the seats were more plush with velour and the buttons, where the regular gl had more of a tweedish type fabric. the gl-10 seat has a height adjust lever on the side. pulls up or down, extends for leveage. Check the vin plates from the dash and the door sill. what is the build date? can the dude produce a title, or is this a parts car? Subaru Vehicle Identification Decoder Look up your vin number online First 3 Digits JF1 Passenger Vehicle JF2 Multi-Purpose Passenger Vehicle (MPV) Fourth Digit Model Line A Subaru XT and Loyale K Subaru J Line Fifth Digit Body Type A Justy B 4-dr 81-84 C 4-dr 85-89 F HatchBack 81-89 G 3-dr Coupe 86-89 K Touring Wagon 89 M Wagon 81-84 N Wagon 85-89 R Brat 81 T Brat 82-85 U Brat 86-87 W Hardtop 81-84 X XT 85-89, XT6 88-89 Sixth Digit Engine Type 1 1300 2 1600 3 1600 4wd 4 1800 5 1800 w/o air suspension 7 1800 4wd with air suspension 8 2700 9 2700 4wd with air suspension Seventh Digit Model Designation 1 STD Hatchback 2 DL 3 GL 81-90, RS, Justy 4 GLF 81-82, GL-10 85-89, Xt6 88-89 5 86 Turbo, GL-10 Turbo 87-89, GL full-time 4wd 3-door 87 6 Turbo RX 7 GL Turbo 87-89 Eighth Digit Weight Class and Restraint Type A Less then 3000 lbs GVWR B 3001-4000 lbs GVWR with Passive Restraint 1 Less then 3000 lbs GVWR 2 3001-4000 lbs GVWR with Passive Restrain Ninth Digit Check Digit Tenth Digit Vehicle Model Year A 4spd MT B 5spd MT C 3AT D 4spd 4wd MT 81-84 D 5spd 4wd MT 85-89 E 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat E 5spd 4wd Dual Range MT 85-89 F 3AT 4wd G Full Time 4wd MT H 4EAT Full Time 4wd 4 4spd 4wd 87 Hatchback Last Digits 002001 & after Touring Wagon 100001 & after Hatchback 200001 & after 4 Door Sedan 300001 & after Hardtop 81,84, XT, XT6 400001 & after Wagon 500001 & after Brat 700001 & after Justy 800001 & after 3-Door Subaru VIN code Position Sample Description 1 4 World Manufacturer Identifier 2 S 3 4 4 B Line type 5 T Body style 6 6 Engine type 7 1 Model identifier 8 C Restraint type 9 X Check digit 10 3 Model year 11 7 Plant of manufacturer & transmission type 12 1 Sequential number 13 0 14 8 15 3 16 8 17 5 Line types The line type is specified in character four of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description A Alcyone/XT/XT6 B Legacy/Baja C Alcyone SVX G Impreza S Forester Body styles The body style is specified in character five of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description C Impreza Sedan D Legacy Sedan E Legacy Sedan F Impreza & Forester Wagon G Legacy Wagon (Outback models) K Legacy Wagon M Impreza Coupe P Outback Wagon T Baja X XT/SVX Coupe Engine types The engine type is specified in character six of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description 2 1800cc FWD 3 3300cc AWD 4 2200cc AWD 6 2500cc AWD 8 3000cc FWD Models The model is identified in character seven of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description 1 Base 2 Brighton 3 L 5 LS/S 6 LSi 7 GT/RS 8 Outback/Sus 9 Postal Vehicle Restraint types The restraint type is specified as character eight of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Description 2 Automatic Seat Belt without Air Bag 5 Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags 6 Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags C Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger, Curtain and Side Air Bags Plants and transmission types The plant and transmission type is specified in character eleven of the Subaru VIN for passenger cars. VIN Code Plant Transmission 6 SIA AWD MT5 5/R 7 SIA AWD 4EAT 8 SIA AWD 4EAT (Postal) C FHI FWD 4EAT G FHI AWD MT5 5/R H FHI AWD 4EAT SIA=Subaru-Isuzu of America FHI=Fuji Heavy Industries Subaru WMIs WMI Country Description Vehicle Types JF1 Japan Fuji Heavy Industries Passenger Vehicle 4S3 USA Subaru-Isuzu of America Passenger Vehicle 4S4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Perfect write-up and and very clear. This body of text is an adaptation of an existing article for compilation. I did not write this, but it is sure handy info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91 subaru Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 Milesfox has hooked me up alot. Great guy with a ton of knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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