ernst82 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Has anyone ever converted the fuseible link box to a standard fuse box or is it even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I don't see the reason why to do this? The Fuseable links are just pieces of wire which complete the circuit, swapping it to a fuse box is not gonna change anything as the Fuses are still completing the circuit in the same way. You could replace the links with 12ga. wire and spade connectors and it will still work just fine. -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 j style fuses should plug in place of the fuse links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernst82 Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 yeah i had to special order the black link for my xt awhile back. I think I will just order a bench stock of all the links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I don't see the reason why to do this? The Fuseable links are just pieces of wire which complete the circuit, swapping it to a fuse box is not gonna change anything as the Fuses are still completing the circuit in the same way. You could replace the links with 12ga. wire and spade connectors and it will still work just fine. -Tom Warning! Fusible links are not just ordinary pieces of wire. They are designed to carry a certain amount of current to protect the wiring they are spec'ed for. Using an ordinary wire in place of them is asking for big trouble if a short occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Warning! Fusible links are not just ordinary pieces of wire. They are designed to carry a certain amount of current to protect the wiring they are spec'ed for. Using an ordinary wire in place of them is asking for big trouble if a short occurs. I learned something new today, I thought they were basic wires with a coating on them. Thanks for pointing that out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch de la Brat Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I just replaced mine with a stereo type fuse. 4 10 gauge spade connectors (female ends) and a matching or comparable stereo fuse. Like that. I cut a hole in the top of the fuse box cover just big enough for the wires to pop through and and bent the fuse over the side to keep it out of the way. No problems so far. Twitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't see the reason why to do this? The Fuseable links are just pieces of wire which complete the circuit, swapping it to a fuse box is not gonna change anything as the Fuses are still completing the circuit in the same way. You could replace the links with 12ga. wire and spade connectors and it will still work just fine. -Tom Couple reasons, getting replacement fusible links can be hard or expensive. Getting replacement blade fuses is easy and cheap. If your upgrading your alternator, you need to get rid of the black fusible link any way, and put in an appropriate fuse for what the alternator is putting out. One of the big reasons to get rid of fusible links, is voltage drop. Fusible links are horriblely inefficient conductors and after yanking them out and replacing them with blade fuses, you can sometimes get a volt or two more at the fuse box and other constant-hot circuits. That translates to better running electronics, brighter lights, faster blower fan etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Thanks for the break-down, those are good points. -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deener Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Couple reasons, getting replacement fusible links can be hard or expensive. Yup. The parts stores don't carry them and the black link at the dealer here in Vancouver was 6.50 plus tax. Not to mention they don't stock them so if you need one it would have to be ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Thats why I make it a point when at a wrecking yard to look in every black box for links. I probably have more than any dealer The black ones are harder to find tho, it seems like they only came in GL10's or turbo models. Heres the specs from the FSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deener Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I have a black one in my 88 GL and in all of the Loyales (91, 93 and 94). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicfrog Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Mid 80's Nissans also had them. I know because I pulled a couple last year at the bone yard. Of course... That was last year... Now I have NO IDEA where I put the damned things when I got home!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The FNG Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Which fusible links would be replaced with what size of fuse? I think the green one is specified at 20A in my Chilton's manual, but the rest of them are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Which fusible links would be replaced with what size of fuse? I think the green one is specified at 20A in my Chilton's manual, but the rest of them are not. I just go off the wire size in the circuit, because thats what the fusible links protect, the wire itself, not the load(lights, fan etc.). I do this by looking at what size is leaving the fusible link and then use a table like this: 10ga. - 30amps 12ga. - 20amps 14ga. - 15amps 16ga. - 7.5amps I based this off of a table like this one: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm So if you have a 14ga wire, just use a 15amp fuse and you should be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subruise Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Thats why I make it a point when at a wrecking yard to look in every black box for links. I probably have more than any dealer The black ones are harder to find tho, it seems like they only came in GL10's or turbo models. Heres the specs from the FSM. me too, heh, happy hunting. RV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The FNG Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I just go off the wire size in the circuit, because thats what the fusible links protect, the wire itself, not the load(lights, fan etc.). I do this by looking at what size is leaving the fusible link and then use a table like this: 10ga. - 30amps 12ga. - 20amps 14ga. - 15amps 16ga. - 7.5amps I based this off of a table like this one: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm So if you have a 14ga wire, just use a 15amp fuse and you should be OK. I guess I really don't understand how you got this part: 10ga. - 30amps 12ga. - 20amps 14ga. - 15amps 16ga. - 7.5amps I came up with different wire gauges according to the cross sectional area of the wires based on the link you gave me and the picture posed in this thread. I also don't see how you found the amperage rating for each gauge. Sorry for doing this to you, I just want to understand what I'm doing before I do it. Could you help me out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernst82 Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I went to the pick in pull out side JBLM yesterday and scored 15 fuseible links for 2 bucks. FYI they have 4 gl wagons there, most with the ej22 and a na ea82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Those fuse sizes are based on the electrical code. It doesn't really apply to cars. Using those fuses will be safe, but may not work, as often conductors on cars are "overloaded" by the standards of the CEC/NEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I went to the pick in pull out side JBLM yesterday and scored 15 fuseible links for 2 bucks. FYI they have 4 gl wagons there, most with the ej22 and a na ea82 GL's dont come with a EJ22, you must mean Legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwagon Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Just found this link, maybe it can be of use to you: http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/electrical-links.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernst82 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) GL's dont come with a EJ22, you must mean Legacy. Yeah sorry I missed type it. Also they have a loyale there. Edited March 26, 2011 by ernst82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solakian Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Bussman makes 40A, 50A, and 60A Fusible links that fit directly into the Loyale fusible link box without any modification. The 40A is green and is a direct replacement for the green fusible link. The 50A is red and directly replaced the red fusible link. The 60A is yellow and may be considered a little light for the black fusible link, but I've been running a 60A yellow Bussman link for a year now without any problems. I keep a spare of each in the glove box but have not needed them so far. The part numbers are BP/FLF-40-RP (-50-RP & -60-RP). I bought them off the rack at AutoZone for about 3.50 each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 GL's dont come with a EJ22, you must mean Legacy. Well, it might have been GL's with EJ swaps that were never finished. NM Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The FNG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Bussman makes 40A, 50A, and 60A Fusible links that fit directly into the Loyale fusible link box without any modification. The 40A is green and is a direct replacement for the green fusible link. The 50A is red and directly replaced the red fusible link. The 60A is yellow and may be considered a little light for the black fusible link, but I've been running a 60A yellow Bussman link for a year now without any problems. I keep a spare of each in the glove box but have not needed them so far. The part numbers are BP/FLF-40-RP (-50-RP & -60-RP). I bought them off the rack at AutoZone for about 3.50 each. They may fit, I just don't know if the amp rating on them is correct. According to my schematics, the green one is supposed to be a 20A fusible link. I guess my Chilton's manual could be wrong...won't be a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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