hb_kim Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Few days ago, while driving home from work, I saw the engine temperature climbed above half mark. By the time I parked in front of my house, the coolant was overflowing from the reservoir. After a quick search on the board, I am certain that my EJ25 engine is now history. Car is still drivable when the engine is cold but it starts burping after 4-5 miles. With 99k miles on the odometer, I am torn between fixing the car and getting rid of it. It is 14 year old car but it has been fairly reliable otherwise and been serving me and my family well. Fixing it would mean finding an used EJ22 engine and doing the engine transplant. I heard that 95 EJ22 from automatic is the easiest for transplanting into 97 with automatic. Obviously I cannot do it so I need to find someone who can do it. I live in south bay area, California. If any member around the area knows a mechanic who is capable of such job & is willing, I would appreciate a referral. On the other hand, if you think the cost of engine transplant is prohibitively high for such an old car, I would appreciate such advice too. In such case, I will post another thread to sell my OBW. What would be a good price for 97 OBW limited, automatic with 99k miles, with broken engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Sounds like you just need new head gaskets. It's low mileage - hasn't yet been overheated a rediculous number of times - perfect candidate for the updated gaskets. They are $35 each at the dealer. Why would you throw the engine away with only 100k on it? Seriously - you are over-reacting. Fix it and drive another 200k. Selling it is stupid - you will get nothing for it. That car is EASILY worth $5,000 after the repair. The way it sits - maybe $1,000. An EJ22 swap will run you about $1200. A head gasket job will run about the same - maybe as much as $1500. But the engine you know vs. the engine you don't..... you are better off repairing it. The cheapest car is NEARLY ALWAYS the one you already own. GD Edited March 24, 2011 by GeneralDisorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstone Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Agree with GD. Find a good Japanese/foreign car shop that is well experienced. Have them to do the head gaskets, reseal the engine (cam, crank, oil pan gaskets), water pump, timing belt, idle tensioner and pulleys. Your engine will go for another 200k before any issues if the job is done right. Make sure they use ONLY the upgraded Subaru head gaskets. No aftermarket parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I couldn't agree more with GD. His advise is spot on. A guy here in Indiana is advertising a 98 OBW with 144K miles, and a blown head gasket on Craig's list for sale for $1,000. This chimes in with GD, that the car will only bring about a $1,000 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hb_kim Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 $1000 seems to be a fair price for me. If any fellow member can refer a decent subaru mechanic in south bay area, I would much appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 with the Ej25 it's impossible to change the gaskets with the motor still in the car right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike104 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) The DOHC can be done in the car, but many say that you get a better quality job and it ends up being easier to remove the engine to do the DOHC HGs. The SOHC is a bit easier to do and some have done it in the car. http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/99-do-yourself-illustrated-guides/7867-2000-my-obw-car-head-gasket-replacement.html It really depends on what tools/space/skill set/time available you have to do the job. Edited March 25, 2011 by Mike104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J A Blazer Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 When the dealer mechanic did a head gasket job on my SOHC 2000 OBW, he didn't remove the engine from the car, but he did remove the engine from the mounts and lifted it up somewhat to gain additional necessary clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hb_kim Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Got an estimate of $3440 for replacing head gasket and all - timing belt, water pump, seals, etc. Seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 hmm from that link they say the cams block the headbolts I can't say for sure since i've never seen the cams up close on a DOHC motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olnick Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Got an estimate of $3440 for replacing head gasket and all - timing belt, water pump, seals, etc. Seems reasonable. Seems pretty steep to me! I'd look for a small independent shop that specializes in Japanese cars--specifically Subaru if possible. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstone Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Got an estimate of $3440 for replacing head gasket and all - timing belt, water pump, seals, etc. Seems reasonable. :eek:No way! Seems rip off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Totally unreasonable. Take a short vacation up here to lovely Oregon and ill do them for $1500 for everything. If you gut the thermostat it will drive up here. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hey, Couldn't they hire a driver and still save money? A lot of folks out of work. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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