duane b Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 that doesn't have a standard radio or floor mats? Article: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/wheels/162083_road27.html 2004 Impreza WRX STi, 300 hp is the most powerful Sub engine in America? I wonder what the most powerful engine ever produced by Sub is? Any guesses? Sounds like a perfect car for my mid-life crisis. I keep telling my wife that when I turn fifty, look out! Anybody ever tested one out? Article: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/wheels/162083_road27.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 There were a whole bunch of them at an NASIOC gathering I attended last night.. one Claiming 370HP at the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garner Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 in a heart beat, if I had that kind of dough. I actually prefer the 02-03 sti that never made it to the states but I'd take the 04 i geuss. When they first made it to my local dealer they were not doing test drives. It was a pay for it now and we'll put you on the list deal. They were actually getting substantialy more than msrp for them as well. I need to see if they'll let me drive one these days, maybe the hype has died down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegacy96 Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Absolutely. This reminds of when my dad came home with a 1988 bright yellow Honda Prelude. Wish we still had that car but it doesnt match my Legacy. If youre looking more for luxury, go for the redesigned Legacy GT. With a 2.5L turbo, youll have more than enough power and a sporty car. I cant wait to get a WRX, but a college student's bank account doesnt offer much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 I rented a 2003/4? outback in Atlanta last week, and was very disappointed in the lack of power. Seemed about the same as my '96 Legacy. I guess you have to go with the turbo if you want any kind of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyKeith Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 The car is worth every last cent. In my opinion the article misses a few things and even is wrong about a few things. #1 Ok, so it doesn’t come with a stereo, but it’s wired for it. You can go to your local stereo store and have on installed for around $300, including stereo and speakers. Not a big deal when you consider that 70% of the people buying the car would rather have their own stereo in the car over a factory stereo anyway. #2 Compared to a $30k luxury car the interior is loud. Compared to other 300hp sports cars the interior is quiet. #3 Compared to a $30k luxury car the ride is harsh. Compared to other 300hp sports cars its rides like a Cadillac. In fact, compared to the equally handling (Or just a tiny bit better handling from the test reports) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, the STi rides like a Cadillac. Stiff and uncomfortable is an understatement for the EVO. #4 You don’t have to get down to get into the car. The seat is height adjustable, and at it’s lowest you still aren’t climbing down into the car like the writer makes it seem. My stock Honda Civic del Sol is much worse. #5 The interior is not cheap in the slightest. I think it’s the best looking Impreza interior yet. The fit is exceptional and once again I ask, who buys a sports car for the interior? The trunk area is covered in a standard gray trunk carpet material. Why does my trunk need to look good? Are there people siting in it on long trips? #6 The bit about the pink. It translates as Cherry blossom red and is a highly respected color in Japan. If you care about that aspect of the car then it’s not the car for you. #7 Would you really expect the intercooler sprayer to make a difference when it’s the dead of winter in Seattle? He is correct about the purpose, but in the dead of winter you would never really need to use it. It does have a purpose in the heat of summer and it does make a difference. #8 Insurance for a responsible 25 year old is nothing out of the ordinary. Insurance for even the regular WRX is a bit on the high side for price of the car, but that is thanks to all the parents that are buying them for their 18 year old kids that can’t handle that much car are wreck them within a few months. The Sti #9 It’s rally inspired. Not road-rally inspired. I guess they have to say that so people don’t substitute “Protest Rally” for “rally.” That’s really just a pet peeve more than anything. A road rally is traditionally an event that is all about navigation skills and not about car performance. The car is flat out incredible. Everyday I drive it it’s like the first day I bought it. It makes power everywhere in the rpm range, and handles like a dream. Just driving the car on the street does not give you a true understanding of the abilities the car has. Take it to an autocross or find a wide open gravel road, with no trees on the side, to play Then you’ll begin to see just how special the STi is and you’ll see that $31,000 is not a lot for what you’re getting. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 this i believe is the biggest and most powerful engine subaru ever made... subaru flat 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane b Posted March 5, 2004 Author Share Posted March 5, 2004 It's nice that Subaru is taking a step back in time with all this new technology. Anybody ever owned or driven a 1970-71 Datsun 240Z? Nothing but barebones car and a seat of the pants performance. That's what this car reminds me of. Who cares about heated leather and headlights that swivel. It's just more crap to breakdown. Even if cash was no object I wouldn't touch a new Cadillac. What a joke! They should spend more time at the drawing board because for all of their power and luxury, they are F'ugly and useless! All of them. I hope this 2.5L is a diiferent and more dependable design then the Legacy motor. Otherwise, you will be blowing headgaskets the first time you wind up that Turbo to max boost. I wonder if you could buy one overseas and ship it to the USA for cheaper? I had a friend buy a BMW 325i in Germany and ship it over. It saved him over $3K. MEEKY MOOSE: Sorry, Unless there is a SOI (Subaru of Italy), Subaru didn't make that engine they only sponsored it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinsUBARU Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 that h12 engine was for their f1 car way back in the day when they were trying to find a motorsport program that suited them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane b Posted March 5, 2004 Author Share Posted March 5, 2004 There are quite few on EBAY. This one looks sweet with low miles. Gotta wonder about it since it's selling for half of new. Hmmmm... Dear, it followed me home, can I keep it? It is affordable, though.:cool: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31868&item=2464910703 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Wow!! Ultra rare.. it says it has an 8 cylinder 14,000 Buy it now.. very suspiscious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegacy96 Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 96 Legacy lack of power? You must be mistaken. I have great power unless I put regular gas in it. And if I had a 5-speed, my Legacy would kick some serious rump roast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 I have plans to try to get a WRX STi this next fall/winter. I talked the dealer here in Fairbanks and they said I could come in for a test drive as soon as the roads are clear (cuz the car has those slicks on it) 300 hp egnine with mods to make it up to 900hp. They are made to be rally cars. I can't wait to get it and pour some money into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaru_styles Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 i THINK i saw somewhere a company selling a 2.4 crate motor thats like 600hp.......did anyone else every read about htis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxsubaru Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Originally posted by torxxx 300 hp egnine with mods to make it up to 900hp. 900 horse seems a litle high there some right now with around 500 horse, but 900 seems almost imposible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northguy Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 For 31,000 dollars, I could buy a whole fleet of roos to off-road with, steal parts from, part out, fix up, create several really nice ones... no, I wouldn't pay that much for any car. Don't need to go that fast, and don't want to take an expensive car into the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 I sort of share Matt's sentiment here. They are absolutely awesome, but unless I could actually get in some rallies with it, I would never be able to take it to its full potential with any amount of safety or without getting my license revoked. And then there's the fact that AK is just hard on cars and I'd rather have a bunch of old soobs than one of those up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsmiths Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 ... but a LOT of others would. The car was just voted the 'Readers's Car of the Year' by Road & Track magazine. The general concensus is 'It's put the SPORT back in 'sports car'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 $31,000!!!!! you got a hella deal, they are wanting $35 K for one at my local lot, but they are the only subie dealer for 80 miles in any direction, but even at 35k i'd have one in a heartbeat if i could afford it, and besides i've lost my lisence before, its not so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane b Posted March 10, 2004 Author Share Posted March 10, 2004 Originally posted by Slegacy96 96 Legacy lack of power? You must be mistaken. I have great power unless I put regular gas in it. And if I had a 5-speed, my Legacy would kick some serious rump roast. I'd have to agree with Tiny Clark. Driving my wife's 96 Legacy L wagon is a humbling experience in my opinion. It doesn't seem to have anymore power than anything else in it's class (yes you're thinking that Subaru Legacys are in a class of the own but whatever. They're still a small to midsized family car), like a 4 bangor Accord or Camry. I don't know what the bhp is in a '96 2.2L but it can't be much over 130. But take a smaller car and add more than twice the HP and now you're talking kicking some serious rump roast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Thanks Duane! No torque, no power... I think I had more power in my 86 Stanza in Alaska. I have a beemer over here which has a 2.0 liter engine in it, of course it's six banger , and it has the torque and power I can live with and still get 25 mpg. It must be the smog laws that kill the power output of this boxer engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegacy96 Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Well I wasnt talking about an 2.2L engine. The Legacy GT features a 2.5L engine. Is there a difference? Oh yea, of about 60 HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegacy96 Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Therefore the 2.5L would have more power than most cars in its class. Mine has 175 HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 The one I rented must have had a 2.5, being new. Must be the gearing in the auto tranny that just plain sucks. Either way, the car seemd to lack torque and horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by Slegacy96 Therefore the 2.5L would have more power than most cars in its class. Mine has 175 HP. Is it modified? I thought the output (measured at the crank) of the 2.5 was 165hp. Anyone know how much they put to the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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