CHIM Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 After a while of searching i have been unable to find the post im looking for tho ive seen it before. Im looking for the post for the 5 lug swap on an RX with a list of doner parts! I found a XT6 complete that has been wrecked and the guy told me i can have my way with it for $100.00! im heading down tomarrow to pull the parts but i don't know everything that i need HELP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Maybe you werent looking in the right forum? Try searching here for 5 lug swap. I would help out but its not easy on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 get the whole rear brake assy. it would be less work to take the whole trailing arm/axle and all. this will give you the swaybar mounts! and for the front, get the lower control arms at leasyt, as well as the knuckle. a modified control arm can be substituted, impreza knuckles and struts can be substituted(you lose the aprking brake), but the rear 5 lug hub is the golden egg. Those are the only ting that cannot be sugstituted, and in the right market, those hubs alone are worth 150-200 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 get the whole rear brake assy. it would be less work to take the whole trailing arm/axle and all. this will give you the swaybar mounts! and for the front, get the lower control arms at leasyt, as well as the knuckle. a modified control arm can be substituted, impreza knuckles and struts can be substituted(you lose the aprking brake), but the rear 5 lug hub is the golden egg. Those are the only ting that cannot be sugstituted, and in the right market, those hubs alone are worth 150-200 bucks ok, so i don't need the front struts from the XT6? i was told i can have all of it for $100.00 i was gonna brag front struts control arms A arms knuckles axles and sway bar. rear was gonna get the arms knuckles sway bar and breaks front and rear Are the imprezza struts and knuckles prefered? there is a imp sitting less than 10 feet from the XT6... guy is letting stuff go really cheap i might grab some of that stuff as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 you dont need them if you buy new impreza or already have. but if you are there, take as much as you can! I am just stating the bare minimum you would need if you were limited. get the instrument bezel as it is worth 100 bucks on the xt boards. you have to remove the knockout plug in the clock and remove the screw, to get the radio out, and then get the bezel off. If you break it, then you know why everyone has a 100 bucks for a non broken one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 well, here goes another noob question. as far as impreza doner parts im seing GC8 impreza as doners, what is the GC8 in reference to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 GC is a reference to the first gen imprez 1993-1999, and even the bugeye impreza after 2000 are the same platform. I think the 8 refers to turbo coupes, which we did not get in the USA. Try dirtyimpreza.com for that particular info. The XT6 was sort of an engineering bridge between the old ea platfroms and the up and coming legacy platform, with the orientation of the throttle body, the mounting of the pitch bar, and the front hubs and macpherson strut setup, and a few other oddities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 technically: G = Impreza C = first gen ('93-'01 for the impreza) sedan 8 = 2.0l turbo But GC or GC8 is commonly used to refer to any first-gen impreza. BUT, any EJ front setup will work with a 5-lug swap. And the EJ stuff is much better. better strut options, MUCH better brake options, the tie-rod tabs on the knuckles are in a slightly different spot, so the tie rods are shorter, which helps prevent bump-steer. But yes, the XT6 stuff will work. It will (assuming it's AWD....) have air-suspension, which won't be useful to you. but the knuckles and brakes will work (and allow you to keep the front ebrake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 technically:G = Impreza C = first gen ('93-'01 for the impreza) sedan 8 = 2.0l turbo But GC or GC8 is commonly used to refer to any first-gen impreza. BUT, any EJ front setup will work with a 5-lug swap. And the EJ stuff is much better. better strut options, MUCH better brake options, the tie-rod tabs on the knuckles are in a slightly different spot, so the tie rods are shorter, which helps prevent bump-steer. But yes, the XT6 stuff will work. It will (assuming it's AWD....) have air-suspension, which won't be useful to you. but the knuckles and brakes will work (and allow you to keep the front ebrake). Sedan? So the impreza wagon stuff wouldn't work? Anything from the rear if impreza stuff work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Front end Imp stuff will work, but nothing from the rear. Altho there was someone (PoorManzImpreza) a few years back that made a template for a adapter plate to make Imp rear hubs work, not to many have done it yet. http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=96674 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 ok, i think i got the just of it, im new to this impreza stuff as i have mostly EA-81's. It's time i start showing some love to my RX project! Thank you thank you thank you to everyone helping me out with this! All your advice is greatly appreciated! Not sure if im gonna pull the parts today now tho IT'S SNOWING LIKE HELL NOW! Chim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I acculy have one more question, What axles do i need? i have the RX trans so will i need the XT6 axles or the impreza axles? and if i use the impreza knucklesand rotors will the XT axles even work? The XT6 is an awd automatic if that matters. and i belive the imp has a 2.5, i could be wrong tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Check the USRM. I have a thread in there for the correct parts list and depending on what direction you go with it (either the XT6 or the Impreza parts) it'll tell you what parts you'll need from what cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 What about legacy knuckles and struts how do they stack up? And I have a choice in tranny's, if I'm going to change my tranny what would be a better choice, legacy 5-speed or impreza 5 speed? Both are awd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Would outback struts and knuckles work? 99 outback legacy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostema4328 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 yes but the struts may lift the front of your vehicle too much. you would have to lift the rear or cut a coil out probably. to make it level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Sedan? So the impreza wagon stuff wouldn't work? Anything from the rear if impreza stuff work? ... But GC or GC8 is commonly used to refer to any first-gen impreza. I acculy have one more question, What axles do i need? i have the RX trans so will i need the XT6 axles or the impreza axles? and if i use the impreza knucklesand rotors will the XT axles even work? The XT6 is an awd automatic if that matters. and i belive the imp has a 2.5, i could be wrong tho. RX trans has 25 spline, so you won't have an issue there. Just match them to the outer knuckles, and you're set. What about legacy knuckles and struts how do they stack up? And I have a choice in tranny's, if I'm going to change my tranny what would be a better choice, legacy 5-speed or impreza 5 speed? Both are awd Legacy = EJ. Yes. going to have to give more info on the trans. They'll probably be pretty similar, but depending on year and motor will have different ratios and clutch types. Would outback struts and knuckles work? 99 outback legacy... Work? yes. work well? probably not. As mentioned, the struts are taller in an outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 My choice of trannys would be a EJ22na legacy or a 94 22EJna impreza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostema4328 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) those transmissions are probably virtually the same. The final drive may be different though. I would pick the one that had the final drive ratio that you want and of course get the diff to match. probably 4.1 but could be 3.9 usually the outbacks had the 4.4 Edited April 30, 2011 by roostema4328 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 Ok, got a bunch of stuff today. kinda a hecktic day trying to rember everything in this post but here we go. Lower control arms,tie rod ends and sway bar (XT6 AWD) rear hub assembly (calipers rotors and A arms) and sway bar (XT6 AWD) Front KYB struts (90 legacy) 4.11 EJ tranny,diff and drive shaft (90 legacy) Front kuckle assembly with duel piston calipers and axles (99 outback) Got it all for $400.00. Did i miss anything and do these parts sound correrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 i also found 2 GL-10's with rear disk breaks, can get them for $50.00 a set. (backing plates,rotors and calipers) if anyone one is interested in them i can pull em and ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Now go out and bolt everything in. The only issue you might run into will be where the lower control arm bolts to the crossmember. I've had to drill the hole in the crossmember out bigger (I used a 1/2" bit I think) then use the smaller bolt with washers on the outside of the crossmember and make sure the control arm is pulled out as far as it'll go before bolting it down tight. I usually do it with the bolts loosely bolted in, then put the car on ramps after the rest of the suspension is in and then snug them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Pics of my $400.00 hual. Now i need to get the garage cleaned up so i can install all of my goodies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 You are going to have to hybrid the trans mounts to fit. The rear part is too wide. You can swap the rx mounts and have 2 mount sets. I just took pictures of my xt6 swap with the trans mount, you can see it here once i upload the pics: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=119353&highlight=runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIM Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 You are going to have to hybrid the trans mounts to fit. The rear part is too wide. You can swap the rx mounts and have 2 mount sets. I just took pictures of my xt6 swap with the trans mount, you can see it here once i upload the pics: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=119353&highlight=runabout I would absolutly love to see those pictures for sure, but im not to worried about it not fiting. Ive done alot of custom tranny and T-case mounts in the past and i have alot of steel laying around. Just bust out the torch and welder and have some fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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