burgeman Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I have a 93 loyale that has been sitting for 3 years. i just put a new fuel pump on (even though it was for an earlier model loyale, i dont think that is the issue) it sounds like it wants to turn over but just doesnt. help please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Take off the distributor cap. Make sure the rotor is turning while cranking. If it is not, the car was parked 3 years ago from a broken timing bely. Easy fix, all the instructions would be found by searching. your car has an ea82 engine, for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 i will look at this today and give an update after. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 To test the fuel pump, there are a pair of green connectors near the ECU. Plug these in and the fuel pump will cycle off and on. The relay is above the ecu on a bracket on the steering column, you willhear it clicking. If no click, swap the realy or check the fuse. The relay is a brown one right next to the green(ign) relay) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 i took the relays out. there were 2. one brown and one metal round one. i took them in and the metal one was the fp. the fp works the car just wont start. it sounds like it wants to but wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor pole Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I am guessing that it won't turn over right? just a clicking sound? In that case I might suspect the starter contacts are going or gone bad. happened to mine, I 'tapped' on the back of the starter with a dead blow hammer. started right up after that. hope that helps Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 no it's more than clicking. its turning over but just wont run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Check that the rotor is turning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If you haven't tried spraying some starter fluid into the intake yet I suggest you try that. If that doesn't get it going check the timing belts and the compression. Since the rotor is turning at least you know one of the belts is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 starting fluid doesnt do the trick. and all the belts are spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 If the plugs are getting spark check the compression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 I'm sorry but how do i check the compression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 If we have spark and the belts are turning, we will want to check to make sure the timing is correct. ITs possible someone made the repair and installed thebelts in the wrong order. A mis-aligned belt will give you poor compession readings. I recommend you search 'ea82 timing belt' and follow the belt rotation sequences to make sure this is not the problem. also search youtube for 'art of subaru maintenance' episode #8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I have a 93 loyale that has been sitting for 3 years. i just put a new fuel pump on (even though it was for an earlier model loyale, i dont think that is the issue) it sounds like it wants to turn over but just doesnt. help please Do you know what model year of pump you put on? Loyales had several fuel delivery systems over the years with different fuel pressure requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 SUBARU FUEL PUMP 1800 LOYALE XT COUPE 1.8L. 85-88 1880 & Loyale 1.8L Carb Engine , 1985 XT Coupe 1.8L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 on the box: SUB 42021 GA140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 ok the fuel pump is definitely pumping fuel... could it be an oxygen sensor maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Or i could clean the MAF but im not 100% on the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm sorry but how do i check the compression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) I have a 93 loyale that has been sitting for 3 years. i just put a new fuel pump on (even though it was for an earlier model loyale, i dont think that is the issue) Hi, Are you positive this is a Fuel Injection pump? They are higher pressure than a carb pump, more expensive too. Doug Edit: Because you posted this too: " SUBARU FUEL PUMP 1800 LOYALE XT COUPE 1.8L. 85-88 1880 & Loyale 1.8L CARB Engine , 1985 XT Coupe 1.8L Edited May 20, 2011 by Quidam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeman Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 ok she's running. well not on the road but running in the garage, i need to find a new hose for the tank to the pump(thicker of the 2 lines). it was a combination of the wrong fuel pump and bad plugs and corroded dist cap/rotor..... but now shes making a knocking/loud tapping noise when running? any clue to this new symptom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 change the oil, it might go away. The lifters have probably collpsed from sitting, they may pump up with a few revs and a spirited drive. run some marvels oil in the oil for the first fw hundred miles, and see if that hepls. otherwise it may need a new oil pump seal, which could have been a pre-existing symptom before this thing sat so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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