Arty Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 First off, much thanks to Quidam for finding an OEM flywheel for my car for 25 bucks. You have no idea how much that helped! Now... I figure these OEM flywheels may as well be made of pure lead. I've been looking for a way to get just a little more oomph out of my car, and I think freeing up weight on the flywheel may just be the way to get it. Does anyone happen to know if it's possible to lighten this thing up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 If you can find a machine shop that does custom work they can cut some holes in it here and there, and re-balance. Probably cost a fair amount to have it done though. A light weight after market replacement is probably cheaper than paying to mutilate a stock/OE flywheel. There will be other effects from lightening the flywheel. You may get better throttle response and power in the higher RPM range, but you will lose starting torque. This generally means you will have to ride the clutch more to get the car moving. So the clutch wears out sooner, the flywheel is subjected to excess wear and higher temperature. You will also have more engine vibration at idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 If you can find a machine shop that does custom work they can cut some holes in it here and there, and re-balance. Probably cost a fair amount to have it done though. A light weight after market replacement is probably cheaper than paying to mutilate a stock/OE flywheel. There will be other effects from lightening the flywheel. You may get better throttle response and power in the higher RPM range, but you will lose starting torque. This generally means you will have to ride the clutch more to get the car moving. So the clutch wears out sooner, the flywheel is subjected to excess wear and higher temperature. You will also have more engine vibration at idle. Yeah, I actually read about that here and there but wasn't too sure how true it was. I guess I'm better off just looking for some way to eek out some more power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Ej22 right? Look into a set of Delta Cams. No personal experience myself, but there are plenty of members here who run them and are very happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 First off, much thanks to Quidam for finding an OEM flywheel for my car for 25 bucks. You have no idea how much that helped! Yw. But, now they want about $130.00 shipped! They have 42 of them. They had 2.5 flywheels in mass quantities too, now they don't. They were asking about the same price for them, as they're asking for the 2.2's now. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Yw. But, now they want about $130.00 shipped! They have 42 of them. They had 2.5 flywheels in mass quantities too, now they don't. They were asking about the same price for them, as they're asking for the 2.2's now. Doug If I would have known they were going to jack the price up so much I probably would have ordered two of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yw. But, now they want about $130.00 shipped! They have 42 of them. They had 2.5 flywheels in mass quantities too, now they don't. They were asking about the same price for them, as they're asking for the 2.2's now. Doug And now I'm wondering, Quidam... would you be able to use your discount-finding ways to get a good price on a set of OEM plug wires??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi, Have you ever heard that joke with the punch-line, "And that's how the fight started". ? It's like that with plugwires sometimes. There is one eBay listing for about $36.00. But it's a vague listing with a generic photo. They don't tell you if it's old stock or not. Old ones may have had EPDM boots at the coil. New will be silicone. It's to prevent leakage over the long haul. Here's the link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OEM-Subaru-Spark-Plug-Wires-90-96-Legacy-2-2L-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d5Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d3381536223039592QQ_trksidZp5197Q2em7QQitemZ260783987595 I've read the Subaru recalls for plug wires, and what they don't say is whether or not resistance was changed from old to new. Higher resistance wires are more prone to leakage at the coil. Which is a problem also with some aftermarket wires. BTW, as wires degrade, the resistance goes up, Subaru wires too. At any rate, you don't want the old style. Acording to that listing these sell for $42.95 at the dealer. Subaru plug wires come with stainless steel terminals, silicone boots, and silicone jacket. As far as I know. There are aftermarket wires with those specs, possibly without the stainless terminals tho, and if the resistance is in line with factory specs, they would do just fine. And that's how the fight started. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi, Have you ever heard that joke with the punch-line, "And that's how the fight started". ? It's like that with plugwires sometimes. There is one eBay listing for about $36.00. But it's a vague listing with a generic photo. They don't tell you if it's old stock or not. Old ones may have had EPDM boots at the coil. New will be silicone. It's to prevent leakage over the long haul. Here's the link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OEM-Subaru-Spark-Plug-Wires-90-96-Legacy-2-2L-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d5Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d3381536223039592QQ_trksidZp5197Q2em7QQitemZ260783987595 I've read the Subaru recalls for plug wires, and what they don't say is whether or not resistance was changed from old to new. Higher resistance wires are more prone to leakage at the coil. Which is a problem also with some aftermarket wires. BTW, as wires degrade, the resistance goes up, Subaru wires too. At any rate, you don't want the old style. Acording to that listing these sell for $42.95 at the dealer. Subaru plug wires come with stainless steel terminals, silicone boots, and silicone jacket. As far as I know. There are aftermarket wires with those specs, possibly without the stainless terminals tho, and if the resistance is in line with factory specs, they would do just fine. And that's how the fight started. Doug Oh my word... I'm lost now. When it comes to Subaru, I thought everything was supposed to be OEM. Now I'm confused :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 The good news is buying Genuine Subaru for the bit of $$ they're asking is a slam dunk in this case. And won't hurt your wallet that bad. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I have a set of Carquest wires on my 96 sedan, no problems there. I just changed wires on my 95 wagon, they were Pacard? or something like that. No major problem with those, but one had a pin hole in the boot up by the coil pack that was causing some trouble in damp weather. I put in a set of Standard Ignition Products wires I got from the local Federated Auto Parts store (they look exactly like the Carquest wires on the sedan). It runs the same, just doesn't sputter in damp weather anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 The good news is buying Genuine Subaru for the bit of $$ they're asking is a slam dunk in this case. And won't hurt your wallet that bad. Doug Yeah, I think I may just go with the wires from the stealer-ship. And if they end up being bad, I can beat them with the wires unmercifully until they replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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