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'91 Loyale not starting (fuel) and distributor installation


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Bought the car with a broken left side timing belt. replaced belts and wouldn't start. found no fuel pressure. pump would cycle but not pump. tried one out of a friends '92 (I don't know any of this cars history so I'm not spending any money I don't have to until it runs, especially a $250 pump) and it pumps fuel.

Still no start.

after a lot of messing about testing this and that and the other, fuel is not getting past the fuel pressure regulator. I swapped the FPR into the '92 and it works, neither one will let fuel into the throttle body in the '91.

I'm confused.

I don't know what pressure the pump is putting out, but it runs the '92 just fine and I expect it would run the '91 the same.

Any ideas, no matter if I've checked it five times will be appreciated. maybe the sixth time is the charm... :-\

 

As for the distributor...it was pulled when I bought the car (the PO thought the cam was broken) and I've read and re-read and installed and re-installed the very short procedure from AllData but the rotor never seems to point in the right direction. It points straight back at the firewall instead of at #1 on the cap. is there another procedure besides TDC #1, line up the dot with the index on the dist shaft and install? Maybe I'm just a tooth off but I have nothing to go by except what alldata says.

 

-Josh

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Search EA82 Timing belt for rference. The distributor should point to the master cylinder. the timing belt is set to a center mark, and not to the 0DEG BTDC mark. The fuel pump is triggered by a pulse from the disty. MAke sure that it is plugged in, and the ECU is active.

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I've got the engine timed up properly. One mark up, one mark down set on the center mark 90 deg from TDC. The ECU is operational (swapped those with the '92 and it started it, though not the '91 obviously) and operates the injector. I can feel it clicking while cranking, and the tests I've done have come out good, ohms out fine and receives voltage when cranking. Does fuel go through the injector first, then through the FPR? I thought it to be the other way around.

 

By what you're saying I just have to put the dist. where I want it and nevermind about the marks on it? So I just set the engine to TDC #1 and drop it in to point at the #1 on the cap/MC?

 

Thanks,

-Josh

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Fresh 'eyes' are wonderful. Thank you MilesFox. Checked the fluid diagrams and then under the hood, they are indeed switched.

 

Onto the next dead horse...should I put the distributor where it needs to be and ignore the manual's instructions and marks?

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turn your crank until the driver side cam dot is facing up. then turn the crank until you get you o deg mark, and drop in the disty. you could just be 180 off, in which case, flip the disty. There are 2 rotations of the crank for one rotation of the cam/disty

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Switched fuel lines and dropped in the disty so it points at #1 and it starts and runs and is timeable. Thanks for the help.

The thing that confuses me is that Subaru and any other book I've found says to install the disty with points on the disty shaft lined up (don't have a picture to link to sorry) and it always leaves the rotor pointing ATDC, about 15 degrees or so probably. Even on my friends '92, where the disty has never been removed, and so it's very easy to tell if it's back in the same place...following procedure puts it ATDC, off the original marks, and it runs poorly. Install it a tooth off and it's back where the factory put it and runs as it should. I'm not a by the book sorta guy...the right results are the right results no matter how you get there. I dunno, it just irks me I guess.

 

Thanks again.

-Josh

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When it comes to subarus, throw the book away. Even old-timers are confused by the peculiar design of the subaru, as it is atypical of anything, and the closest thing would be old volkswagens.

 

Congratulations. Now enjoy hundreds of thousands of miles, if you can keep the rust away.

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