southernsubie87 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I just got a 87 subaru dl wagon a couple of weeks ago. All i had to do was replace left timing belt and tensioner. I got that accomplished after several tries. The carb. needs to be rebuilt, and i've got to put a new oil gasket on, Ive got both kits and these task are in the process. Yesterday i used the 4 wd to come up my driveway. The driveway is rough and you have to have a 4 wd to get up and down when wet. Anyways to much info i guess. My problem is this morning when i got into car and tried to back up gearbox/trans is just kinda grinding didn't really give the car a chance to move i was afraid i'd tare something up, My trans is a 5 speed manual rear wheel drive with optional 4 wheel drive i think. Now I re-engaged 4 wheel drive and car drove just fine, no grinding, all wheels pulling, etc. Drove it around trying to switch back and forth but no luck, when it comes out of 4wd it just wants to grind not pull. Has anyone had this problem before, or any suggestions? Thanks this is my first foreign car I love it, but i'm used to working on domestics and this is a whole new ballgame. Overall it seems really easy to work on but parts seem hard to find and expensive. So I don't have the option of trial and error. I just don't want to break something i can't replace or find, no junkyards around with motor of trans parts for at least 100 miles and even those are limited. Sorry bout the long post any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm just really falling for the car and don't want to hurt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The car is front wheel drive in 2 wheel, and engages the rear axle for 4wd. The trans has no transfer case, but rather a PTO shaft that is driven from the front diff. You most likely have either a broken front axle, or a stripped hub. It is a common known fact that if your front axle breaks, you can put it in 4wd to get home. You are essentially running rear-wheel drive this way. The axle is not difficult to replace if you know the tips and tricks, which there is plenty of info hear if you search. Your car is an ea82 engine, and that generation of whole car is generally referred to as "ea82" for your search terms. Put the car in fwd and in gear, set the hand brake, and observe if you see parts of the axle spinning or not. Look for the inner end of the axle to spin, and not the shaft. This will let you know if you have a broken inner or outer axle. If you see the whole axle spinning, and the axle nut is spinning too, this is a stripped hub, which is super easy to fix and does not require a new axle. both left and right axles are interhangeable. The inner splines are 23 at the trans. If ordering new axles, and to avoid confusion in cross referencing and getting the wrong part, order one for a 1990 loyale non turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Fiddler Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 If ordering new axles, and to avoid confusion in cross referencing and getting the wrong part, order one for a 1990 loyale non turbo The Cardone part number for that car should be 60-7008. You can use that to cross-reference if needed. If the hub is stripped you should at least inspect the axle splines to make sure they didn't get worn down bad as well. I'm not sure if this is a common problem or not, but just to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 In the event of a stripped hub, generally the Axle's ssplines survive being a hardened steel versus the softer cast steel of the hub. Stripped hubs are the result of loose or improperly installed axle nut. It seems simple enough, but there IS a WRONG way to install the washers in the axle nut, so be aware of this. If the car had a loose axle nut and stripped hub for some time, it could have compromised the wheel bearing. Otherwise, if the axle is indeed broken, all you have to do is replace it and nothing else is compromised....as long as you install the axle nut properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Fiddler Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 You can get new washers at a Subaru dealership for about $10ea. (cone and spring). The spring washer will be marked "OUT" with green marks on one side. If yours doesn't have these marks or is real old, it wouldn't hurt to get a new one at $10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernsubie87 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 Alright great advice guys, I put car in fwd and applied hand break. Drivers side spins, whole thing axle, nut, etc. So thats the hub, but what about the pass. side should it also spin? It doesn't spin at all? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Yes, this is inded a stripped hub. Only one axle will spin; the one with the least resistance, as the front diff is an open diff. You can replace the hub with any one form any 85-94 car of the same body type sedan/wagon/coupe/xt with 4 lugs. 32mm axle nut even a hub from the older body style 80-84 wagon/sedan and thru 87 and 89 brats and hatchbacks will work if you have a hard tme finding parts. remove the axle nut, and the 4 bolts that hold the hub to the rotor. you can do the reapir without removing the axle or the caliper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Fiddler Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 32mm axle nut Don't you mean 36mm axle nut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 where is my head at today. I did indeed mean 36mm axle nut. Just to note, 32mm is for the 5 lug hubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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