heartless Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ok, I have searched, and searched and found lots of info regarding the later plastic seperator plates that from what I little I have been able to glean were used on 93 & up EJ motors...most of the threads i found were about 96's and later, both 2.2's and 2.5's My car - 1990 Legacy LS, EJ22, 4EAT, AWD, 211K leaking oil like a sieve... now from what I have been able to find, my seperator plate "should" be aluminum, correct? I know it has been said to get the steel replacement one anyway, but I really can not afford to at this time unless it is an absolute necessity, so...I "should" be able to re-use the aluminum plate, use the ultra grey sealant and it "should" be OK - correct? (and use locktight on the screws - really hoping the rear main is ok) It would be really useful to know the answers to these questions asap as there are USMB members coming up tomorrow to help me pull, reseal, and re-install the motor - will also be doing timing related stuff as it will be that much easier with the motor out and it is due anyway. If I absolutely must get the steel plate (& screws), I would need to do it today and the nearest dealer is about an hour away... Thanks in advance for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike104 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Opposed Forces lists two numbers for '93 2.2L engines (I would think the '90 would use the plastic one). 11831AA080 (Think this is the plastic one) 11831AA150 (Think this is the AL one) Both of the above ones use countersunk screws. They have all been replaced by 11831AA210 that is the steel one and uses flat head screws. If yours has the plastic one I would change it, perhaps some of the USMB members may have an AL one they could give you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 a little while back i did call the "local" dealer about this and was told "I think yours is metal" (they did NOT impress me one bit - as in if it is older than 98 forgetaboutit...) i did find a video by someone named Justin @ All Wheel Drive Auto "explaining" about the seperator plate and it was stated very clearly that the first couple years were aluminum, then they went to the plastic, then finally to the stamped steel replacement. Do I trust this info? I would really like to get verification on this info from members here that have gotten into one of these...please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 You won't find plastic plates till late '95 and '96. Even the EJ25D's from '96 had the aluminium plate. EJ22's used plastic starting in '95. All your's will be fine. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike104 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 This post http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=48893&highlight=separator also says the 90/92 ones were aluminum. I was thinking about the '95-'99 ones. Hopefully one of the uber Subaru wrenches can confirm it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN! (yes GD, I include you in that statement ) you have just made my day. Mike, thank you for that link - funny, i did not get that particular thread in my searches Edited June 3, 2011 by heartless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Even the plastic ones can be resealed if you're in a pinch. Just clean it up really well to get all of the old sealer and oil off before reinstalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General chaos Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 where is this plate at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Back of the engine behind the flywheel/flexplate. It is only accesible with the engine out. The plastic one's always leak. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General chaos Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) the aluminum ones will leak as well. but 21 yrs, and 211,500 miles - yeah, i would expect a few leaks. so, yeah - 1990 at least has aluminum plate. motor got pulled yesterday, pretty much everything got resealed and it got stuffed back in, still have a few minor things to finish up, but hopefully the massive oil leaks have been stopped - a quart of oil a week was getting expensive (and i dont do that much driving!) Edited June 5, 2011 by heartless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I have an EJ22 out of a 93 Legacy on my bench right now and I just looked. The plate is plastic on this one. Could it be one of those things where pulling the engine is the only reliable way to tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 from what info i was able to gather, 90, 91 & 92 should all be aluminum. they started using the plastic in 93, so some may be aluminum, some may be plastic - they continused using the plastic for many years and only fairly recently went to the stamped steel one. but yeah, the only way to know for sure is to pull the motor - as many of the original plastic ones have been swapped out for metal by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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