el_freddo Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 G'day all Since joining the forum I've been learning about many new things that we either a) don't have over here or haven't considered doing over here before. I'm looking at the option in this case as I've only just read recently about a cam regrind for the EJ22 for lower torque. This interests me as I'm always looking for better low down torque for 4wd'n. Things that I'm wanting to know from those who have done it before are: 1) How does the factory ECU (I think its a '91 model EJ22 ECU - 4 plug at ECU, 3 plug at Engine) run with these cams - are there any issues or anything I should know about? 2) Are they easy to fit when the engine is in the subi - L series in this case? I've not had to play with heads and don't really want to have to pull the engine and/or the heads 3) Are they worth the effort and how does your EJ22 now handle on the freeway/highway at 60/70mph? 4) Is there a particular grind that delta cams work with or can I go into a shop over here in Oz and get them to do the work here for me? 5) Has you're fuel consumption increased/decreased? Any other information from those who have done this would be appreciated. Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I have 2 sets both installed easy but the engine was on the bench, leave head on remove the rockers and slip in the reground cams, for a Offraod wheeler I would run them , I never check gas mileage , EJ with the cams and a dualrange is awesome , especilly compared to a stock EA82 1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 I have 2 sets both installed easy but the engine was on the bench, leave head on remove the rockers and slip in the reground cams, for a Offraod wheeler I would run them , I never check gas mileage , EJ with the cams and a dualrange is awesome , especilly compared to a stock EA82 1.8 Thanks Scott. No issues of the factory ECU running these cams - no idle issues and the engine still revs out ok? These are the little things that I'm keen to know - if there's going to be an issue with idle etc and there's not an easy fix for it I'd probably look at something else... Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thanks Scott. No issues of the factory ECU running these cams - no idle issues and the engine still revs out ok? These are the little things that I'm keen to know - if there's going to be an issue with idle etc and there's not an easy fix for it I'd probably look at something else... Cheers Bennie works good on my rig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 We have had idling issues with the first-gen ECU's (90 to 94) and the torque cams..... it's not that bad though with the EJ22. If you do the frankenmotor it's way beyond what the ECU can handle it seems. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 We have had idling issues with the first-gen ECU's (90 to 94) and the torque cams..... it's not that bad though with the EJ22. If you do the frankenmotor it's way beyond what the ECU can handle it seems. Yeah I've just been reading up on recob123's thread, left a post there too. After reading that I'm guessing that the delta cam grind - what ever the specs are will run without idle issues on the otherwise stock ODBI EJ22. But if I decide to go for a frankenmotor like recob123 has done I'd probably be best to look for an ODBII ECU from a post '96 Liberty or Outback correct? I might have to investigate the cost of getting a set of those cams shipped out, unless I could find out the grind specs and have it done over here - saves me on shipping that's all. Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Another thing I should have asked is can I still run with regular (91RON) or do I need to run premium (98RON)? Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackvt Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 idling issues ? :drunk:u know the idle-control is totally adjustable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 idling issues ? :drunk:u know the idle-control is totally adjustable Yes but if it is outside the adjustable area then it won't work... everything has a limit, I want to be within the limiting area, not outside it! Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 Hey all, Still after the info on whether 91RON is acceptable to use with these cams - I can't see why not. Another thing I was thinking of - do I need to get the followers re-faced or just run with them as they are? Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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