thebr0wn0ne Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hello, my 87 GL hatch is leaking brake fluid via the hill holder. Rather then trying to fix it, i would like to bypass it. Any ideas? Or if you've done it before some tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Just Disconnect the Cable, it Works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skishop69 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Not if it's leaking from the hill holder valve. You can get the proper fittings from NAPA to eliminate it. I believe it's a female/female flare union. Did it once long ago, but don't remember exactly what we did. You CAN'T use compression fittings for brake lines. They won't take the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanurys Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I used to get custom hydraulic hoses made at John Deer or CAT. They both have a huge inventory of unions and hose to make to custom lengths. If you bring them the hill holder they can measure the flange angle of the flare and make the hoses for you. This can be done for power steering, too. Common angles are 45 degrees and 60 degrees. You should see the big end crimping machine they use. Pretty cool stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebr0wn0ne Posted July 19, 2011 Author Share Posted July 19, 2011 Thanks a lot everybody, ill get back to you and let you know how things go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowmastered87GL Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 If you do take the hill holder cable off of the clutch fork make sure you install a suitable replacement spring that attaches to the clutch fork up to somewhere on the engine to help the clutch return to engaged position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skishop69 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I wouldn't count on any place making you 'rubber' brake lines. Especially if you tell them what it's for or the guy is smart enough to identify the line. Brake line flare are distinct in that they are a type of inverted double flare. It's a legal liability. Been down this road many times.It's why any brake lines you get for a lifted application are braided stainless and so expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 If you do take the hill holder cable off of the clutch fork make sure you install a suitable replacement spring that attaches to the clutch fork up to somewhere on the engine to help the clutch return to engaged position. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebr0wn0ne Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Will do flowmaster. and thanks ill lokk into the braided lines, hopefully not too damned expensive. if its worth it in the long run i might go ahead with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skishop69 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Most of the braided lines you will find will be very long lengths for lifted applications. Any short ones you find will be for race apps and cost an arm and a leg. I'll be finishing up my stripping my Brat for paint tonight, so I'll take a look and see what you need to do to bypass with the fittings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 All you need fitting wise is another "TEE" fitting. On EA81 vehicles, there is a "TEE" fitting bolted to the "HH" bracket for the other side of the brake system. Find another one, remove the lines from the "HH", unbolt it from the frame rail, install lines into the "TEE", bleed the brakes. There was another Member on here that did this earlier this year. Pics and part number of the "TEE" was posted in that thread. I don't recall who, or when it was exactlly. I've done this myself, but I just happen to have a few "HH" laying around from scrapped vehicles, and didn't need to go buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbrat Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 a tee from and old toyota truck works too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suberdave Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 you can always go to the junkyard, find a car with an auto trany. and take the whole front section of the brake lines. they all unbolt at unions, and it is super easy to swap. no more hill holder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Yep. To add to what SD said, Subaru's with Auto trans has a 4-port master cylinder. Manual trans with the "HH" have a 3-port. Easy to swap them out, just carefully rebend the lines to fit the new Master cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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