notliving Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 So the I had to replace the driver side head gasket last weekend due it leaking coolant. It was a pretty straight forward procedure, yank engine replace gasket put back in. When I started it up it ran like crap. I thought I might have had the timing wrong but after researching it and re doing it a couple times I can pretty much do it with my eyes closed. So finally I started checking compression: 1-3-4 all were at 130 ish and 2 had 0, wouldn't even move the needle on the gauge. So now the engine is back out of the car and I'm somewhat frustrated. This was done on an '88 GL coupe with a SPFI EA82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Check and see if a valve isnt sticking open on that cylinder. Loose rocker arm, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notliving Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 That was one of the first things I thought but everything seems to move fine. Valve goes in, valve goes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 what kind of headgasket did you do? all of them except Fel Pro's require retorque procedure - did you do that? i would pull the valve cover since it's easy and see if one of the rocker arms fell off or is cocked/mis-aligned - basically what rob said - make sure the valves are actually opening and closing, that would just be an easy mistake to make. did you test compression before the job or it ran fine (suggesting something probably went wrong with the repair rather than something else wrong with the car)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notliving Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 I used the rock auto gaskets. By retorque procedure I'm assuming you mean the start with a lower torque setting, torque all bolts in the correct patter then move to a higher torque setting and repeat as per the manual. Already had the valve cover off after I pulled the engine and the valves move in and out fine and the rockers are in the right spot. No test prior to the repair. Car ran fine other then coolant coming out of the head gasket. The gasket kit had 2 head gaskets so maybe I'll just re-do the whole thing and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 You might have had a faulty reading on that cylinder. How many times did you check it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notliving Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Ended up just re-doing the head gasket today. Stuck the engine back in, had 150psi compression. Fired it up and adjusted the timing. All systems go. I'm really not sure what went wrong the first time. The gasket looked fine? Anyway its running better then ever. Now its time to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie bill Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 "By retorque procedure I'm assuming you mean the start with a lower torque setting, torque all bolts in the correct patter then move to a higher torque setting and repeat as per the manual." No, and I'm breaking the sticky rule by replying because I haven't actually done this,but retorqueing is a completely different procedure covered in the periodic maintenance section of the manual. I did just go back and review that. Supposed to be done on a new car at 1000 miles. Basically loosen one end of your intake manifold, then loosen, oil, and retorque each head bolt in sequence. Read the manual there is more to it than that. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) i would guess a rocker arm wasn't set properly or something or HLA not pumped up? By retorque procedure I'm assuming you mean the start with a lower torque setting, torque all bolts in the correct patter then move to a higher torque setting and repeat as per the manual.no, - that's just the torque sequence, a retorque procedure is completely different: some engines require a retorque and some do not - the EA82 does per the FSM. retorque means that a headgasket is installed, then the engine is started and allowed to heat up and cool down for one cycle, i don't think it's 1,000 miles but the FSM or headgasket installation instructions should say. then after that, you go back in and loosen and retorque the headbolts. what is strange to me is that the EA82 FSM requires a retorque but the XT6 (a partially siamesed EA82 block) does not. i don't know what happens if you don't retorque - i don't know if a gasket could not be properly seated right way because of not doing a retorque because i've never skipped that step. EA82 engines are supposed to be retorqued, the only gaskets i know of that are designed to not be retorqued are the Fel-Pro permatorque gaskets, which tell you not to retorque. that's why they're the most popular headgaskets used on the engines. or "were" the most popular since the EA82 has gone the way of the do-do bird with time and rust. Edited October 3, 2011 by grossgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txakura Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 EA82 FSM requires a retorque but the XT6 (a partially siamesed EA82 block) does not. perhaps the 'extra' bolts and having a broader area to distribute the force across change the need to retorque? since the EA82 has gone the way of the do-do bird with time and rust. sssssh your scaring my birds out of the driveway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 sssssh your scaring my birds out of the driveway i say that with respect, i have EA82's and ER27's (XT6's) too, i don't want to scare them all away. they are constant reminders of how accepting, affirming, and loving my wife is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notliving Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yeah I know about re-torquing after x amount of miles. Since the car was never driven just ran in the driveway after the head gasket install, I figured you were talking about the gasket install torque procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 right on. no word on the cause? gasket looked good...so, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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