ADIDA4X4 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thanks to markjw I am the proud new owner of an 88 wagon. As the ad said there was a blown head gasket and I was in the process of torqing the head back on when the dreaded happened. I stripped the threads:mad:. Ok so helicoils here I come. So I drill out the block with the proper bit, Tap the hole with the supplied tap and put in the helicoils. All should be good until We go to put in the bolts ant they will not go in. The helicoils we got were for a 10 1.25 witch seems to be right when you thread the bolt into the helicoil out of the block but when it is in the block they will not go in. Any help is appreciated. Im So proud to finally be a Subaru owner but I cant wait to be a Subaru driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruparts Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thanks to markjw I am the proud new owner of an 88 wagon. As the ad said there was a blown head gasket and I was in the process of torqing the head back on when the dreaded happened. I stripped the threads:mad:. Ok so helicoils here I come. So I drill out the block with the proper bit, Tap the hole with the supplied tap and put in the helicoils. All should be good until We go to put in the bolts ant they will not go in. The helicoils we got were for a 10 1.25 witch seems to be right when you thread the bolt into the helicoil out of the block but when it is in the block they will not go in. Any help is appreciated. Im So proud to finally be a Subaru owner but I cant wait to be a Subaru driver. hi, the threads for the ea82 head bolts are 11x1.25 , not 10x1.25 , i had to find a tap to chase threads and it was hard to come up with but i did find it. as for helicoils you might find them but it will not be a standard thing at the auto store , only a specialty supply will have that odd size, and you need the long ones , almost an inch of threads go into the block , most helicoils are like half that long but they do make longer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thank you for the help. I found 11 1.25 on the napa web sight not sure how long they are something to look into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Definitely get the longer helicoil thread packs - I replaced several threads with the regular kit length, only then to get some heat in the block (slightly too hot), blew a HG - when I stripped it down I found that the smaller threads held too much torque and could be moved easily... You want to avoid that at all costs, not a good feeling! Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I Replaced the Bolts on my EA82 intake Manifold, using this ones I Found on Napa: They have the 1.25 Pitch number printed in the Box. Kind Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 You can stack heli-coils. And you need to use red loctite anytime you are installing heli-coil's for something like a head-bolt, etc. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 You can stack heli-coils. And you need to use red loctite anytime you are installing heli-coil's for something like a head-bolt, etc. +1, i've done that before. might want to practice stacking two first on something benign. you have to remove the wrong size helicoils? that sucks. what a mess but hopefully you're close. i don't recall them, particularly those huge ones, being super easy to remove but haven't had to do it much either. it's just an EA82....i think i'd just get the wrong size headbolt to match the wrong size helicoils ...i *know* that's a huge no-no and i deserve flaming for saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I think I'd go to PaP and get a whole different block. About $65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 wow thanks for all the info I do have all the 10 mm helicoils out and the 11m ones should be here tomorrow. im not sure if ill try stacking them because i am just going to be driving this car easy right now. Mainly to work and back I have an 88 ranger with a sas and 35s if I want to beat on something. In the near future there will be an ej swap happening and I think I might give it an overhaul before I put it in to make sure it will last for all I want to put it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjimd Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 You need to stack em to replicate the grip range of the origional bore thread. If not they will pull.And that will not be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Well finally I got my pack of 20 helicoils and got the heads torqued on and one cam on. now maybe tomorrow I can finish it up so I can drive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 So I got everything together put oil in it, water, battery, and took the coil wire off and cranked to get some oil pressure. Put the wire back on and crank and all we get is crank no fire. You can smell gas and we put a timing light on a spark plug wire to see if we got spark and we do. Next my stepdad got some eather to spray while I cranked and that is when we figured out that there was air being pushed out of the intake :-\ when I put on the timing belt the engine was at #1 tdc and the cams had that little hole at 12 o clock. like the book said. Am I missing something? Does it sound like I did something wrong. Gotta be something stupid. Any help greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john in KY Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) You installed the belts wrong. Have to use the 3 slashes on the flywheel. And after installing the first belt, have to rotate the engine one full rotation before installing the second. When finished, one "hole" will be in the 12:00 position and the other in the 6:00 position. Miles Fox did a write-up with photos. http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=50768 Edited September 23, 2011 by john in KY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Thanks maybe I should have searched that would have probably worked. On that note I just want to say thank you to everyone. I am used to pirate4x4 where they would have just told me to go drink bleach or something obscene like that. Ill keep everyone posted on my progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Well I got the timing belt on correct and it turns over better but still no fire. I can still smell gas and I messed with the dizzy and got it to what I think is right, I was by myself so I could not check for spark very easy. Other than that I am at the end of my knowledge. Is there something common or easy? I know enough about engines that it will be something easy. Some ideas of where to look would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john in KY Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Probably just have the distributor position off. And it is easy to install it 180 degrees out. My method involves installing the distributor where I think it is right without the hold down bolts. The wife cranks the engine while I slowly turn the distributor CW/CCW. If the engine fires, I know I am close. If it doesn't, I pull the distributor and reinstall it 180 degrees off. Just trail and error until I find the sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Ok that kinda makes sense to me but not because I replaced the cap, rotor, and wires on my truck and when I was 180 out it would at least burp, grunt and spit. My subie aint doing nothing. I will find someone to help me and try that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 It's been a couple days, but if your still having trouble, I can come out and maybe give a hand. call me if you wanna arrange something. Mark @ 360-970-3547 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subruise Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 ok, bone head question here so sorry if its offensive: you guys did plug the coil back in right? ive forgotten to once or twice. usually after a beer i figure it out RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Yes the coil was plugged in and don't worry I'm not offended because I do let stupid things like that past me ALL the time. I had the timing belts on wrong... again I got it figured out an crank crank zoom. Had a stuck thermostat so water was not flowing got a new on now though. Now there is a couple electrical things to work out. One that puzzles me is I turn the switch to turn on the lights and in the first position everything works, when I turn to the second position to turn the lights on the dash lights turn off along with the tail lights turn off and only the driver side head light goes real dim the other one comes on fine. Then today when I was driving to work after driving for a mile or two everything turned on to normal??? Im thinking it is a ground somewhere but have not had the time to chase it down. Other than that Thank you again Mark for selling me this fine pice of machinery. I am now a Subaru driver and proud of it.:banana::banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADIDA4X4 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Well I think this engine has been through hell and back a couple times before it got to me and its time for an ej swap. My question is I am scared of wiring so is there someone that lives close to olympia area that if i got the engine in my car is there someone that could wire it for me? Maybe for a price. I don't have anything for the swap now but I'm trying to get a feeler for exactly what i need also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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