lmdew Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 My son has a 99 Legacy Outback. He picked it up not runing, redid the HG and put the engine in. The AT Temp light flashes continously. With the trans in park, the engine revs fine. With the Trans in any forward gear about 2000 RPM is as much as you can get, 10 MPH or so. With the Trans in Reverse, the engine will rev higher and you can gain some speed. He tried getting the codes out by jumping the black connector, but he only got the ABS codes. Is there a difference in the procedures for a 99 vs an older Trans? The diagnostic plug has different pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Hm....the 4EAT phase I's, which I think that would have though in 99 I think some models maybe the Forester did get the phase II (w/external spin on filter), yes I think those did have a relatively weird procedure for getting the codes. I believe it involved jumpers, but also being in a certain gear or shifting pattern and possibly even the brake pedal to get it to cough up the codes. There's a good post on here about the procedure somewhere but I've never had to do it so I didn't bookmark it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Yes, he said it had the external spin on filter. I guess we need the newest code process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 IIR ALLDATA has the process. But I've never had to do it either so I don't have it either. But if you know someone that has ALLDATA it would be worth a few bucks to have the procedure printed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I wont be back at the shop until Monday and I can check alldata for you on the correct tcu code procedure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 My son has a 99 Legacy Outback. He picked it up not runing, redid the HG and put the engine in. The AT Temp light flashes continously. With the trans in park, the engine revs fine. With the Trans in any forward gear about 2000 RPM is as much as you can get, 10 MPH or so. With the Trans in Reverse, the engine will rev higher and you can gain some speed. He tried getting the codes out by jumping the black connector, but he only got the ABS codes. Is there a difference in the procedures for a 99 vs an older Trans? The diagnostic plug has different pins. There is a search function folks, it does magic! http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=119634&highlight=transmission+codes If you got abs codes, you had the wrong connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 Yes, search does work. I found your link the other day, but ask the question anyway for some first hand information. I'll make sure he has the link. Thanks, Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 it sounds like the trans is in limp mode, third gear only. i would check the connectors on the passenger side rear of the engine and the TCU connections. some thing is undone or maybe some bent pins in a connector. the largest connector is for the trans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I found this: Let's keep that search function on the d/l, because if it catches on there won't be any new posts to participate in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I found this: Let's keep that search function on the d/l, because if it catches on there won't be any new posts to participate in. Nah there will alwasy be someone to nag to about it, otherwise we just go back to blinker fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Nice picture of the plug. I pulled that down for him last weekend and showed him the ground pins. I was picking up an Impreza for a friend and hit the road. I should have stayed a little longer. He'll figure it out. Hope its an easy fix. If not, I have a good auto trans ready to go in. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 I was up to fix a furnace problem so I took a few minutes to look at the Subaru. The connector to pull the Trans codes has 4 terminals: 1 I I 2 4 X X 6 The #6 Terminal when grounded shows the ABS Codes, this is the one that is called out for pulling the Trans codes. I tried each Terminal 1, 2, 4, 6, and no of them pulled the Trans Codes. I might be because the TCU is continously flashing, very fast. I've not found what continous flashing means. Anyone know? It's not the 16 flashes after start, it just keeps on flashing. Thanks Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 What it should do is come on as a check, go off, then start flashing if you have a hard instant failure. YOu are in limp mode, so this is much more then a stuck solenoid or failed sensor of some kind. i can send you the OEM diagnbostic procedures, which also includes non-trouble code methods of trouble shooting. It sounds like to me the transmission is blind. It can not sense engine Rpm, road speed and or load. Those three are critical to safe shifting. Third gear is a limp mode, and is a default that has been around since the dawn of slush boxes. Check all your harnesses and plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 OEM Diagnostics would be great. Lmdew@hotmail.com Judd got the are in a not running condition, Engine. The trans was good as far as the PO said. So it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lmdew Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Solved. I went up to the son's house with a 96 trans. It had different plugs and a external speed sensor. So much for the free swap. As we looked at the old trans, the pan was dented in pretty good. The fluid that was drained was pretty clean so we dropped the pan. I had had one other Subaru that the trans did not work after someone put on the wrong filter and it was starved for fluid. Once the pad was dropped and cleaned we could see the outline of the screen filter where it hit the pan. We also found a broken solenoid connector, the front one on the aft drivers side. A 100 mile round trip to the You Pull and Pay provided a used solenoid on a Sunday. We put it all back togther and it shifts great. No more Flashing AT Temp Light! Thanks for the feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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