impoutback 97 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) I haven't opened any transmissions and was wondering if the speedometer Gear inside the transmission interchangeable? I have 27" tires now and would like to keep the odometer functional. My final drive ratio is 3.90 in a '97 5MT trans I'm thinking if I swap the stock gear with one out of a Toyota or Nissan truck, it might work. Am I even on the right track? Edited November 25, 2011 by impoutback 97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I'm not entirely how changing speedometer gears works in other cars.... But, I don't see how it could work with the subaru one. Any change in size will effect how it meshes with the output shaft. Also, you have to completely tear open the transmission to get to it. If you've got a reason to be in there, it's easy, but a ton of labor just to swap your speedo gear. I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth looking into, or that you might not be on the right track. BUT, AFAIK it has not been done or documented at all, and IMO not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostema4328 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 just use a gps. they are cheap these days. the speedo function seems to be very accurate on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Also, you have to completely tear open the transmission to get to it. If you've got a reason to be in there, it's easy, but a ton of labor just to swap your speedo gear. Better would be to swap the diff ratio to 4.11 and run a forester speedo gear, this would be your closest factory speedo option as far as I know. just use a gps. they are cheap these days. the speedo function seems to be very accurate on mine. Or do this ^ Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj7291993 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 They're a bit expensive, but these guys offer gps speedometers w/ or w/out odometers. They're a little over $200 per. http://www.speedhut.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxleone Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 If you have an electric sender you can buy build-your-own kits that use a formula to speed up/slow down the pulses to your speedo. http://www.jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=KC5435 That's a New Zealand website, but I'm sure somewhere does one like that in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 i've seen conversion "boxes" that change it for you aftermarket. folks have re-made their instrument clusters to change colors and designs on the back ground, you could possibly do the same for the numbering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostema4328 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 just get one of these. thats what I use in my car with 33s ha ha. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Garmin-nuvi-1300LM-4.3-Portable-GPS-with-Lifetime-Map-Updates/15266006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 i've seen conversion "boxes" that change it for you aftermarket. ... Do you have more info about that? ... I'll Like to Fix that on my BumbleBeast, it Reads Low since the 2" Lift + 15" Rims swap. Kind Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I made stickers for each speed and stuck them on to match. Ghetto but it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red92 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Do you have more info about that? ... I'll Like to Fix that on my BumbleBeast, it Reads Low since the 2" Lift + 15" Rims swap. I'm not sure if we're talking about mechanical or electronic systems... but for the mechanical systems, they make little boxes that have a small set of gears in them that change the output speed. You just hook them up inline with your current speedometer cable. Here's one example: http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm To find them, try doing search for "speedometer ratio adapter". You should get quite a few results, including the electronic type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Holy Cow! ... That is Exactly what My BumbleBeast Needs. I'll Search one online. Thank you. Kind Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red92 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 No problem! If you end up purchasing one, let us know how it works out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Could you Believe that I'm Not Sure about the Speedometer Cable conection on the EA82 with 5 MT (FWD)? ... I'll need more info before buy one of Those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfun Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Those little in-line adapters are pretty nifty, but a bit spendy for the average Subaruer. Might be able to make one yourself somehow. I know some old mechanical cruise control setups had a pair of input and output speedo cable couplings with a couple gears inside. Would just be a matter of changing the gearing, or doing something belt-driven. Although my solution, when I get around to it, is that since I was gonna make some white gauges anyway, I was gonna just redraw the speeds on the dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbeerd Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 i used my gps for the first couple weeks after the larger tires. noting what speed i was going on my speedometer vs my gps. when my speedo says 65mph, im actually going 74-75 mph. 55mph is about 63, etc. under 40 it doesnt really matter as its only a few mph off. which isnt going to cause my any trouble around here i found i got used to it pretty quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugs Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) Here's a link to a previous discussion. Also this calculator may help as well. Edited December 24, 2011 by Mugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsoobdude Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I just figured through another web site the percentage I would be off and rounded up to 10% instead of the 7% it is so I'm slower than my speedo reads. Works good for me but not sure of the accuracy at hiway speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91 subaru Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I made stickers for each speed and stuck them on to match. Ghetto but it worked. LOVE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T'subaru Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I plan on going with a ratio box. Although gps sounds like it would work well Id rather have my speedo read correctly since its already there in my face;) I havnt checked into the costs yet as im aways from having the wagon on the road, but if it saves me from getting a speeding ticket I guess it would be worth it. Heres where I will probably end up going to, custom cable, speedo dyno and ratio box services http://www.tacomaspeedometer.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwagon Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 You could also throw a bicycle computer in the setup. A lot of motorcycle guys have done such a thing. There are bicycle computers that go up to 180mph accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impoutback 97 Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Wow. thanks for all the info. I was debating the 4.11 swap. have to cut the main shaft and weld on the 4.11 gear/shaft, here in the states. we don't have 4.11 d/r. The ratio conversion part looks awesome, anyone try one out on a subaru yet? Do the tribeca s use the tallest tire for a subaru, or is it the same as a forrester ? i run out of gas around 225 miles instead of 325 miles @ stock tire size. really i just want to be accurate just for oil change mileage and odometer reading correct. I've seen an instrument panel manufacturer on 4x4 tv that prints replacement panels. can't remember who the company was but Im sure it can be googled. Thanks for all the responses! Also, does anyone have the link for the ea82 d/r 4.11 main shaft swap/weld? The search tool won't work on my phone Edited January 1, 2012 by impoutback 97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfun Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impoutback 97 Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 This? Nope, i found the post i was referring to @ offroading subaru.com. reading through the post again, i realized it was for the 8 bolt ej d/r. does anyone know if this will work on our dual ranges here in the states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfun Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 From what I've been researching, a 4.11 from a 90-94 Legacy will probably bolt right up, but a 4.44 will require the radius to be trimmed down a bit to fit. I'd love to rock a 4.44, and if I can find the gears I'll hafta look into having a machine shop turn it for me, but in the mean time I'm gonna look for a 4.11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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