noob2soob22 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 what steps need to be taken in ajusting the bushings on the engine pitch rod? is there a certain degree of angle that they need to be set at. also thermostat, is it located behind the water pump, id like to have the gasket before i take it off to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thermostat is in that 2 bolt housing by the upper radiator hose I marked my pitch rod before removing. But I think "tight bolts" would suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You should probably adjust the pitchrod stopper nuts so that the center driveshaft is plumb. You want it to go straight from the rear of the trns to the front of the rear diff. No angles. A bubble level might help you do this, when the car is parked on level ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You should probably adjust the pitchrod stopper nuts so that the center driveshaft is plumb. You want it to go straight from the rear of the trns to the front of the rear diff. No angles. A bubble level might help you do this, when the car is parked on level ground. Completely wrong. Go climb under one and check your angles... Generally speaking, with the engine sitting in the crossmember bolted to the transmission, and it is sitting in it's crossmember, tighten your pitch stopper. It is designed to stop movement. Not set an angle. A bubble level... really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoobDood05 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Might i add if your going to change the thermostat, Or T-stat gasket, Make sure you order them both from the dealer, the aftermarket ones are not reliable, (i know from making the mistake of using the aftermarket ones and they failed soon after). hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The pitch stopper acts as another engine mount. It is just there, no adjustment to it really, other than to make it fit where it is. although you can adjust it one way or the other for the sake of servicing(remoing the trans, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 If you adjust it too much one way, the throttle cable can pull more on the carb.... it can affect adjustment of the hlll holder/clutch cable, etc. It can significantly change the exhaust y-pipe angle where it is under the floor board, how close the y pipe comes to the floor, etc... so....it is there to be adjusted properly, and if it is wrong, you will cause excess where on the U joint to the driveshaft..... cheeers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Again, the pitchrod is not adjustable for angle. The mount is slotted so that there is no...ZERO pressure on the bushings... it works the same as a strut rod bushing. Designed to hold position not adjust it! If your exhaust hits or your u-joints wear out you have other problems. Better yet Genius... find me the pitchrod adjustment procedure in the FSM... oh yes, we'll wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) ^ mkay on page 5-8 step 15 "Install the pitching stopper as follows: a)Insert pitching stopper rod into the bracket on the engine side, and tighten it at the car body side using a nut. Tigthen the rear nut on the pitching stopper of the engine side so that the specifid clearance exists be- tween the rubber cushion and the washer. Specified clearance MT 0.8 - 1.2 mm (0.03 - 0.05 in) AT 1.8 - 2.2mm (0.07 - 0.09 in) c) attach a wrench to the rear nut on the pitching stopper of the engine side to prevent it from turning, and tighten the front nut securely. Torque 1.0 - 1.8 kg-m (7-13 ft-lb NOTE Always make a precise adjustment of the pitching stopper to prevent the engine from vibrating during operation. Then on page 5-16 step 22) Adjust the pitching stopper as follows: a) Loosen nut until the pitching stopper on the bracket (on the engine side) is free to move. Tighten the rear nut until the rub- ber cushion-to-washer clearance is within the specified value MT 0.8 - 1.2 mm (0.03 - 0.05 in) AT 1.8 - 2.2 mm (0.07 - 0.09 inc) etc... Now, that somes it up mkay Edited November 29, 2011 by bheinen74 changed s in is to t now it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Now, you read all of this right? No where does it say adjust anything but the clearance of the bushing to the bracket... using it to place the engine in anything but a neutral location will not fall within the specified adjustment clearance. Now, that somes it up mkay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Oh, forgot one thing. The above listed specs would be for an EA81 vehicle. The EA82 vehicle is simply tighten it where it lies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob2soob22 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 so from ive got so far. is that just for giggles and craps, i will install new rod on level ground. The rod itself does not determine angle or incline etc. just the position of the half rubber plastic bushing that goes through the mount hole. when i bought the car a week ago the previous owner said its been shifting roughly into reverse, so far ive checked idle rpm which was high @1200rpm, bringing it back down to around 900-1000rpm seemed to improve the issue, but the fact that the rod is snapped im sure plays a role. THANKS EVERYONE YOUR TIME AND HELP, IT IS APPRECIATED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob2soob22 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Thanks for all your help guys, now anyone know of any place online to find one its an 83 gl 1.8 wagon 4wd if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Try the classifieds right here on the site. Also change that gear-lube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob2soob22 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 funny, i was told today that thats the #1 overlooked thing when buying a preowned 4wd. what would u recomend as far as viscosity and brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I just asked the guy at autozone for the stuff. I have the bottle at home still. But I'm sure someone here can recite that viscosity off the to of their head. My first tranny ate the ring gear on the differential. I will never neglect gear oil again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Try the classifieds right here on the site.Also change that gear-lube! Good advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sucker king Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 funny, i was told today that thats the #1 overlooked thing when buying a preowned 4wd. what would u recomend as far as viscosity and brand? 80w/90. I have a pitch rod too if you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob2soob22 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 that would be so amazing!! name your price! my gf is getting discouraged, but for 650 with 75k original!! in michigan!!! i will gladly dump a grand into this little monster. just because i know its potentiaL. ANYWAY TO SEE A PIC JUST TO CONFIRM THE FIT/SIZE. I LOOKED ALL OVER TODAY ONLINE, ON THE PHONE, COULDNT FIND ANYTHING! I HAVE THE BUSHING KIT THOUGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob2soob22 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Not to change the subject, because i really do need that rod, all of a sudden after adjusting my idle down to around 900rpm cold 950rpm hot, i shifts in and out of reverse alot smoother? Could the idle speed have been the culprit to our rough shifting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sucker king Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 that would be so amazing!! name your price! my gf is getting discouraged, but for 650 with 75k original!! in michigan!!! i will gladly dump a grand into this little monster. just because i know its potentiaL. ANYWAY TO SEE A PIC JUST TO CONFIRM THE FIT/SIZE. I LOOKED ALL OVER TODAY ONLINE, ON THE PHONE, COULDNT FIND ANYTHING! I HAVE THE BUSHING KIT THOUGH. PM me with your email and I can send a pic, but I assure you if you have a 1983 subaru, this is the part you need. As far as price, $10 shipped sound good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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