dballs Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 There was one of these in my family when I was a kid and it was a blast, I saw it on craigslist the other day and had to snag it. There was two in the area and I determined that this is the one we didn't have. They were both sold by a relative at the same time 12 years ago. It was running like death when I picked it up but it had enough power to drive on the trailer. Long story short, I determined that I had fuel, spark and NO compression in one cylinder. After taking the valve cover off I spotted the problem, the push rod popped off the rocker arm and got stuck in there just right and that valve was stuck open. I pulled it apart and put it back together, Adjusted all of the valves and it runs great now! I am thinking the valve lash got so far out of spec that the rod was able to fall out, or it got over reved. I hope it stays in there. It has a Citroen 650cc fan cooled twin with a 4 speed transmission. It also has a Citroen brake and electrical system. The parts are a pain in the butt to find but they are out there (mostly in France). I have searched high and low online for days and found virtually NOTHING on the vehicle it's self. It is a PONCIN SNOW FLY. If anyone has any info or knows anyone with one lets hear about it! The "vehicle number" on the tag is 80, so I assume there is not many out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Interesting and nice score! I haven't seen one of those before. Does it have a skid steer transmission? The wheels and controls look a little like on the Max-IV 6-wheel I have. It uses a Borg Warner T-20 skid steer transmission and the controls look a little bit like on the Poncin. You might ask around on http://www.6x6world.com/forums/forum.php to see if anyone has Poncin info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 huh...reminds me of the Banana Splits dune buggy - wonder who made those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 ^^ Those banana splits vehicles look like the traditional Max. Others such as Argo made similar ATV's, even with 8 wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dballs Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Interesting and nice score! I haven't seen one of those before. Does it have a skid steer transmission? The wheels and controls look a little like on the Max-IV 6-wheel I have. It uses a Borg Warner T-20 skid steer transmission and the controls look a little bit like on the Poncin. You might ask around on http://www.6x6world.com/forums/forum.php to see if anyone has Poncin info. Yea I am going to get on the forum of 6x6world. As far as I can tell the two brake calipers are mounted to the transmission even in the cars this engine/trans came out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Sounds good. Those brake calipers look interesting. I thought maybe they had something to do with the steering. Does the Poncin have chains to drive all three wheels on each side? Just curious. I didn't notice you're from WNY at first. I wonder if that Poncin might have been made by Recreative Industries or an associated company, being how some of the mechanisms and the wheels look a lot like their Max ATV. They're on Walden Ave just east of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dballs Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Sounds good. Those brake calipers look interesting. I thought maybe they had something to do with the steering. Does the Poncin have chains to drive all three wheels on each side? Just curious. I didn't notice you're from WNY at first. I wonder if that Poncin might have been made by Recreative Industries or an associated company, being how some of the mechanisms and the wheels look a lot like their Max ATV. They're on Walden Ave just east of the city. It does have chains to drive the wheels. I haven't opened the cases up yet but I have some spare chain in a bucket and its huge. It's about an inch wide or maybe a little bigger, and the rollers are a half inch or so. According to the Poncin tag on the machine it was made in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Wow made in France that is cool. I guess that would explain the Citroen engine. Is that a brie warmer on the dash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Nice. My uncle has an 8 wheeler (I think it's an Argo). The thing is a riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylar Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 That thing is sweet ! I would love to go romping in some mud or trails in that thing lol really digging the duel exhaust and tow hitch ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowmastered87GL Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Awesome... if the engine breaks I bet you could try squeezing an EA71 in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallwelder81 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 an ej15 would be CRAZY powerful in that application, also. just a lot more complex design..... youd have all the computer crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 That is a Very Nice Vehicle and a Very interesting Project for sure. I've seen some (very Few) of those here, in my Country... I Wonder why someone will Need such traction here where Never Snows... For Muddy race Competitions? Well... ...Argo made similar ATV's, even with 8 wheels. Some years ago I was on a Traffic Jam on one of the Capital Citie's Boulevards; then suddenly I Saw one of those eight Wheelers 8X8 in the Bed of a Medium Hyundai Truck, so I was able to grab my Chinese Cellphone and shoot a Photo of it while Driving (well, still Stuck on the Traffic Jam) my Subie. Here's the Photo: Let me Know what do you Think about that. Kind Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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