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maybe

 

thats awesome!!:clap:

 

my gf wanted to post it cuz i really want to put 14's or 15's on OUR 83 wagon. having a real hard time finding the 4x40 bolt pattern, so told her about the chevy/toyota 6 lug conversion.. OH BOY!!

 

so she wants to be reassured the wheels arnt going to fly off while she drives like a pi$$ed off teenager!

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...having a real hard time finding the 4x40 bolt pattern ...

 

It is 4X140.

 

Beside Subaru, Peugeot and Renault had them.

 

I Used to own a "Cheviot" (Made in France) 4X140 rims that came from a Renault, but mixed with other style rims, so Tired of that, I Redrilled the hubs on my Subies since ~ 1999 and has Never had a single issue with them.

 

Kind Regards.

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If its done right, I think its safe. I have 29's on 15" nissan wheels and they see full on offroad trails, freeway speeds and town driving with zero problems. I've never heard of any problems either on drilled hubs or drilled wheels. Look in the offroad section for threads on how its done.

 

Take your time and do it right, those of us who have lost wheels(for other reasons) on the road know how much it sucks

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lol. that reminds me of the time....

south i-75, our trailer tire passes us at about 80-90 miles hour.

gets up to the bosses truck 2 trucks ahead in the convoy.

10-20 seconds later the boss comes on the walkie talkie confused...uh houston i think we have a problem!!

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I just recently (past 2 weeks) finished upgrading my '81 wagon to 6 lug. I was running 15" wheels before (using the VW bug wheels coupled with the SJR adapter plates for the 4 lug soobie hubs) but I wanted to do the upgrade whilst I was upgrading the rear brakes to disc...:brow:

 

personally, I believe 6 lugs would be stronger/more reliable than 4 as long as you don't weld the back of the studs and possibly damage the hubs with too much heat (which I have been told *could* happen but I cannot confirm that...speculation).

 

My *only* regret at this point, is that I purchased a few "new" lug nuts to

use (because 1. you'll need more after the switch and 2. I had a few non-acorn style and 1 that had some bad threads) but the lug nuts I came

home with require a larger lug wrench (15/16th?) than the standard Subaru

lug nuts on the 1981 wagon.. not a big deal, but if I ever get caught with a

flat and don't have both sizes in lug wrenches or socket's then I'll be pissed..:o other than that.. I'm happy with the switch thus far..

 

My tires/wheels are far better balanced this time round too.. I'm using the

6 lug 5.5 nissan wheels.. but I believe the tire shop guys did a better job

for me....PLUS i added 'heavy duty valve stems' so no more leaky tires (for now)

 

cheers

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lil ************ can find his own solution.. :)
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It is 4X140.

 

Beside Subaru, Peugeot and Renault had them.

 

I Used to own a "Cheviot" (Made in France) 4X140 rims that came from a Renault, but mixed with other style rims, so Tired of that, I Redrilled the hubs on my Subies since ~ 1999 and has Never had a single issue with them.

 

Kind Regards.

 

lol is this message on auto write. ive seen this message posted several times. lol sorry abou the thread. kylie doesnt think me and a drill and the car are a good idea, but while there away we shall play!!zzzO :brow:

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I just recently (past 2 weeks) finished upgrading my '81 wagon to 6 lug. I was running 15" wheels before (using the VW bug wheels coupled with the SJR adapter plates for the 4 lug soobie hubs) but I wanted to do the upgrade whilst I was upgrading the rear brakes to disc...:brow:

 

personally, I believe 6 lugs would be stronger/more reliable than 4 as long as you don't weld the back of the studs and possibly damage the hubs with too much heat (which I have been told *could* happen but I cannot confirm that...speculation).

 

My *only* regret at this point, is that I purchased a few "new" lug nuts to

use (because 1. you'll need more after the switch and 2. I had a few non-acorn style and 1 that had some bad threads) but the lug nuts I came

home with require a larger lug wrench (15/16th?) than the standard Subaru

lug nuts on the 1981 wagon.. not a big deal, but if I ever get caught with a

flat and don't have both sizes in lug wrenches or socket's then I'll be pissed..:o other than that.. I'm happy with the switch thus far..

 

My tires/wheels are far better balanced this time round too.. I'm using the

6 lug 5.5 nissan wheels.. but I believe the tire shop guys did a better job

for me....PLUS i added 'heavy duty valve stems' so no more leaky tires (for now)

 

cheers

 

okay i get the process. what bits would you recomend and definetly on a press with some wd 40 for lube. use a smaller bit first as a guide?

what measurement would i be taking

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We had a set of chevy 3500 rims with camaro tires on them on this 88 gl sedan. the 19mm lugnuts started to hog out, so we used 21mm lug nuts to fill out the holed. I had to grind out the inner lip on the center hole to fit over the hub. I drove this car to the far end of ohio and hit a good bit of speed down one hill (100 mph) part way out.

 

I ran them on another car for a while. these wheels were heavy.

 

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It's safe if you do it right.

 

The easiest way is to drill the wheels. Now, you want wheels that are the same thickness and flat the whole way around the mounting surface, unlike the wheels shown above that have raised stamped metal areas where the new holes need to be.

 

Then, take a spare front hub, unbolt the rotor off it, and punch out 2 studs opposite of each other. Bolt the hub to your 6 lug wheel, and use a transfer punch the right size to dimple the surface of of the wheel where the hole needs to be. Drill the holes out using increasing sized bits. Then use a tapered stone in a die grinder or a countersink bit to put a taper in the outside face of the holes in the wheel for the lugnut to push on.

 

If you have a hub you don't care about, you can use it as a drill guide with the final size bit to make the center mark for drilling instead of a transfer punch.

 

I drove like a pissed off teenager, heck I was one. Held 80mph through corners marked with warning signs for 40 in 50mph zones. Averaged 90mph from northern VT to southern VT on I91. Rally'd the hell out of the car on all the dirt roads around here and offroaded it to destruction in the woods. Oh yeah, and commuted 70 miles a day for 3 years. Never had a lick of trouble with the wheels.

 

Be prepared to have trouble with chain stores installing tires on your drilled wheels or tires other than the original size. It's best to bring the wheels in unmounted rather than on the car. Independent shops usually won't care either way, but it's best to have the least questions asked with a chain store.

 

Here's a fuzzy pic of my redrilled mitsubishi mighy max/dodge ram D50 15" wheels:

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If you use the plain steel subaru nuts you can use the earlier hub caps on them too to make them look like they were meant to be that way:

picture.php?albumid=19&pictureid=3186

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Was wondering if it would make any sense to weld up the extra holes when redrilling a set of toyota 6's, the steel wagon wheel style. I think it could be done easily with a mig without distortion and would make for a nice wheel to powder coat. Never been a fan of the "extra holes" look. I need to do a set for my lift on the '87 wagon and was wondering. Any thoughts?

 

BTW, pugs seem to be non-existent in NM, everyone drives a pickup here. Anyone every seen these in the southwest? Seem like jackalopes.

 

Bob

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Was wondering if it would make any sense to weld up the extra holes when redrilling a set of toyota 6's, the steel wagon wheel style. I think it could be done easily with a mig without distortion and would make for a nice wheel to powder coat. Never been a fan of the "extra holes" look. I need to do a set for my lift on the '87 wagon and was wondering. Any thoughts?

 

BTW, pugs seem to be non-existent in NM, everyone drives a pickup here. Anyone every seen these in the southwest? Seem like jackalopes.

 

Bob

Same thing here man, mostly trucks.

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because the SAME QUESTION is asked more than once.

 

To that point, there are a number of really excellent FAQ's in the offroad section that will answer about 99% of the questions you could ask, and 100% of the questions you already have.

 

Like we tell every noob here, it's not you, its the 1000 that came before you that asked the same questions, got the same answers and didn't bother to take the 5 seconds to search or read teh FAQ, there is really no excuse for it anymore, it's not like this is the year 2000 and an internet forum is some new exciting thing.

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...didn't bother to take the 5 seconds to search or read teh FAQ....

 

I just like to throw in that the search feature here sucks. Whenever I post a duplicate, it's because I finally got tired of trying to find my answer though that thing we call a search feature. Lol, I'm pretty sure that search bar still thinks it's 2000.

 

I agree that you should look first, just remember how much of a pain that thing is to use.

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So I also have been trying to nail down a set of Pug's. I have a set of 14 alloys on my car now. problem is 2 rims are kinda bent and now it is almost impossible to find any.

So this 6 lug thing, is it just as simple as taking the hub off lining up two of the holes and then marking 2 others? Then of course just drilling and having tires balanced and mounted? I see several sets of 6 lug Toyota rims on C-List is this the way to go?

Thanks for any help direction I plan on getting this done in time for some Holiday driving my front end shakes a little too much now:)

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